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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2021 12:16:07 GMT
Well, I think the hate campaign against the manager is wearing extremely thin now. I for one was taught a severe lesson when training as a Prison Officer, part of which was to interview an inmate on what his crimes were. I asked him why he was inside to which he answered ‘ simple I got caught mate ‘ that brought me down a peg or two and frankly I view time served as an end of the issues involved. Joey Barton is an easy target he wears his heart on his sleeve and gets jumped on at every opportunity. I wonder what the reaction will be when these ‘cases’ the haters are hanging on don’t result in there hoped for incarceration of the man.
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Post by a more piratey game on Nov 14, 2021 12:18:20 GMT
Well, I think the hate campaign against the manager is wearing extremely thin now. I for one was taught a severe lesson when training as a Prison Officer, part of which was to interview an inmate on what his crimes were. I asked him why he was inside to which he answered ‘ simple I got caught mate ‘ that brought me down a peg or two and frankly I view time served as an end of the issues involved. Joey Barton is an easy target he wears his heart on his sleeve and gets jumped on at every opportunity. I wonder what the reaction will be when these ‘cases’ the haters are hanging on don’t result in there hoped for incarceration of the man. deep disappointment |
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Post by Bath Gas on Nov 14, 2021 12:19:36 GMT
It's nice to have some positives to focus on, and I thought that yesterday provided plenty.
I don't think that it's good for anybody's mental health to constantly focus on the negativity of a situation which they cannot change. There are threads on here for those views to be expressed and shared, however, it becomes wearing to find the same phrases inserted in every thread - I'm sure that some people on here must have Macros set up!
I think that the current squad deserve our support, and I wouldn't let one man spoil the whole essence of cheering on my team. These people come and go, it will ever be thus, fans are the constant factor within a football club.
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 14, 2021 12:32:00 GMT
A slightly more significant goal. Plus DC could do no wrong in my eyes. I take your point. Will keep my thoughts on Barton to myself. I'm happy for everyone who enjoyed yesterday's game. I wish I could share the joy but I'm afraid I struggle to connect with Rovers atm. Hoping for an early or late birthday present for myself and Dr F  I am happy for you to continue to share your thoughts on Barton. Why should you be silenced? And I'm also happy for Gasheads who enjoyed the win yesterday and can differentiate between Bristol Rovers FC and "Joey Barton's Bristol Rovers". Some of us can't do that. It doesn't make us 'worse' people. I am totally disconnected from the Club (barring this Forum) for the first time in over 30 years. That's my choice. Cutting off my nose to spite my face? Possibly. Sticking to my principles. Yup. It doesn't make me a 'better' person than anyone else. It's my choice. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2021 12:32:55 GMT
It's nice to have some positives to focus on, and I thought that yesterday provided plenty. I don't think that it's good for anybody's mental health to constantly focus on the negativity of a situation which they cannot change. There are threads on here for those views to be expressed and shared, however, it becomes wearing to find the same phrases inserted in every thread - I'm sure that some people on here must have Macros set up! I think that the current squad deserve our support, and I wouldn't let one man spoil the whole essence of cheering on my team. These people come and go, it will ever be thus, fans are the constant factor within a football club. Agreed that was the best performance from Rovers side for a long time along with the jubilation of the back room staff at the end of the game, Joey Barton was being hugged by everyone as he approached the tunnel and rightly so considering the bile he’s had to endure. Well done Joey and well done the team. |
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Post by rideintothesun on Nov 14, 2021 12:49:55 GMT
The team's improvement, while short of what is required, does raise the question of what happens if things continue to improve before the court cases.
People are apparently working on the assumption that Barton will be sacked if he is found guilty in either case.
Let's start with the Stendel case. For me this is a fairly trivial matter and several key aspects are cloudy at best. It looks unlikely to result in a custodial sentence. Also remember that the club appointed Barton with the case hanging over him.
And now the more recent case. Let's presume that a guilty verdict is forthcoming. Does this automatically mean Barton will be sacked? I don't think so. Wael has insinuated he would, but the club's recent conduct suggests that its word doesn't mean anything. Ultimately I think it depends on whether he receives a custodial sentence, which in this case seems more likely.
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 14, 2021 13:06:30 GMT
The team's improvement, while short of what is required, does raise the question of what happens if things continue to improve before the court cases. People are apparently working on the assumption that Barton will be sacked if he is found guilty in either case. Let's start with the Stendel case. For me this is a fairly trivial matter and several key aspects are cloudy at best. It looks unlikely to result in a custodial sentence. Also remember that the club appointed Barton with the case hanging over him. And now the more recent case. Let's presume that a guilty verdict is forthcoming. Does this automatically mean Barton will be sacked? I don't think so. Wael has insinuated he would, but the club's recent conduct suggests that its word doesn't mean anything. Ultimately I think it depends on whether he receives a custodial sentence, which in this case seems more likely. He didn't insinuate. He stated it, very clearly. As you say the question is whether will Wael keep his word or not (should either case have a guilty verdict). He sticks to his word - that in my book makes him strong. He reneges on what he would said he would do - that in my books makes him look weak. So it's probably the latter. It's a horrible thought. Sack Barton with the team on an upward trajectory and this will only further splinter support. Well done Wael. You have placed yourself in a position where you are damned if you do, and damned if you don't. |
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Post by Bath Gas on Nov 14, 2021 13:14:44 GMT
The team's improvement, while short of what is required, does raise the question of what happens if things continue to improve before the court cases. People are apparently working on the assumption that Barton will be sacked if he is found guilty in either case. Let's start with the Stendel case. For me this is a fairly trivial matter and several key aspects are cloudy at best. It looks unlikely to result in a custodial sentence. Also remember that the club appointed Barton with the case hanging over him. And now the more recent case. Let's presume that a guilty verdict is forthcoming. Does this automatically mean Barton will be sacked? I don't think so. Wael has insinuated he would, but the club's recent conduct suggests that its word doesn't mean anything. Ultimately I think it depends on whether he receives a custodial sentence, which in this case seems more likely. He didn't insinuate. He stated it, very clearly. As you say the question is whether will Wael keep his word or not (should either case have a guilty verdict). He sticks to his word - that in my book makes him strong. He reneges on what he would said he would do - that in my books makes him look weak. So it's probably the latter. It's a horrible thought. Sack Barton with the team on an upward trajectory and this will only further splinter support. Well done Wael. You have placed yourself in a position where you are damned if you do, and damned if you don't. If we continue on an upward trajectory, and there is a non-custodial "guilty" verdict, I wouldn't be surprised if Wael said that he will keep JB, as that is the best thing to do for the immediate future of the club. I honestly can't see him getting rid in the current circumstances. |
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Post by trymer on Nov 14, 2021 13:39:45 GMT
It's nice to have some positives to focus on, and I thought that yesterday provided plenty. I don't think that it's good for anybody's mental health to constantly focus on the negativity of a situation which they cannot change. There are threads on here for those views to be expressed and shared, however, it becomes wearing to find the same phrases inserted in every thread - I'm sure that some people on here must have Macros set up! I think that the current squad deserve our support, and I wouldn't let one man spoil the whole essence of cheering on my team. These people come and go, it will ever be thus, fans are the constant factor within a football club. I agree, in the past many Rovers managers have been disliked even hated by some (in the late 60s the loudest song at a match was 'send Bert Tann to Vietnam') recently Coughlan and Gardner have received abuse at matches but it feels like this forum is only being kept going as a platform for anti Barton rants. With so many (good) posters no longer using the forum maybe it would be a good idea to close it down until after the court cases ? if another forum got started up it might attract some old posters back and bring in some new ones and hopefully it would be a bit more positive and enjoyable. |
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Post by a more piratey game on Nov 14, 2021 13:45:10 GMT
It's nice to have some positives to focus on, and I thought that yesterday provided plenty. I don't think that it's good for anybody's mental health to constantly focus on the negativity of a situation which they cannot change. There are threads on here for those views to be expressed and shared, however, it becomes wearing to find the same phrases inserted in every thread - I'm sure that some people on here must have Macros set up! I think that the current squad deserve our support, and I wouldn't let one man spoil the whole essence of cheering on my team. These people come and go, it will ever be thus, fans are the constant factor within a football club. I agree, in the past many Rovers managers have been disliked even hated by some (in the late 60s the loudest song at a match was 'send Bert Tann to Vietnam') recently Coughlan and Gardner have received abuse at matches but it feels like this forum is only being kept going as a platform for anti Barton rants. With so many (good) posters no longer using the forum maybe it would be a good idea to close it down until after the court cases ? if another forum got started up it might attract some old posters back and bring in some new ones and hopefully it would be a bit more positive and enjoyable. I rather like it as it is |
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Post by Bath Gas on Nov 14, 2021 13:59:47 GMT
It's nice to have some positives to focus on, and I thought that yesterday provided plenty. I don't think that it's good for anybody's mental health to constantly focus on the negativity of a situation which they cannot change. There are threads on here for those views to be expressed and shared, however, it becomes wearing to find the same phrases inserted in every thread - I'm sure that some people on here must have Macros set up! I think that the current squad deserve our support, and I wouldn't let one man spoil the whole essence of cheering on my team. These people come and go, it will ever be thus, fans are the constant factor within a football club. I agree, in the past many Rovers managers have been disliked even hated by some (in the late 60s the loudest song at a match was 'send Bert Tann to Vietnam') recently Coughlan and Gardner have received abuse at matches but it feels like this forum is only being kept going as a platform for anti Barton rants. With so many (good) posters no longer using the forum maybe it would be a good idea to close it down until after the court cases ? if another forum got started up it might attract some old posters back and bring in some new ones and hopefully it would be a bit more positive and enjoyable. It does seem to be a very small number actually posting on here these days, I think people have had enough negativity in their lives during the last 18 months, and don't want to find it inserted into every thread when reading a forum. |
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Nov 14, 2021 14:15:29 GMT
JB is a Human Being and deserves our support.Yesterday was his first chink of light I felt.Faults yes but watching the Macclesfield Robbie Savage documentary was quite moving and I hope Joey can get his problems sorted and get us back on track.Over 7000 next Sat will underline progress and I just hope the Jan Window can take us another step forward.JB has flaws but his passion did us proud yesterday and it 'Was good to get our club back'.
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Post by Igitur on Nov 14, 2021 14:25:41 GMT
JB is a Human Being and deserves our support.Yesterday was his first chink of light I felt.Faults yes but watching the Macclesfield Robbie Savage documentary was quite moving and I hope Joey can get his problems sorted and get us back on track.Over 7000 next Sat will underline progress and I just hope the Jan Window can take us another step forward.JB has flaws but his passion did us proud yesterday and it 'Was good to get our club back'. I respect you and your point of view, but it was only Wednesday Joey was wanting to get at Exeter’s management until held back. Our old club is nothing like what we have now. |
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Post by laughinggas on Nov 14, 2021 14:36:19 GMT
JB is a Human Being and deserves our support.Yesterday was his first chink of light I felt.Faults yes but watching the Macclesfield Robbie Savage documentary was quite moving and I hope Joey can get his problems sorted and get us back on track.Over 7000 next Sat will underline progress and I just hope the Jan Window can take us another step forward.JB has flaws but his passion did us proud yesterday and it 'Was good to get our club back'. I respect you and your point of view, but it was only Wednesday Joey was wanting to get at Exeter’s management until held back. Our old club is nothing like what we have now. Was it another manager wanting a set too with GC or the other way round? There was a clip somewhere that showed it. |
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Post by mangogas15 on Nov 14, 2021 14:51:13 GMT
Whelan will probably get a 1 match suspension,can that be used up in the Oxford Cup game,or must it be a 4th tier game? This is something we were discussing yesterday at the match and came up with two answers! Does anyone know the rules please? I'm sure the cup game will count |
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Post by mangogas15 on Nov 14, 2021 14:52:46 GMT
Hope you had a great day Grant, but the person who deleted their account came across as having a child’s hissy fit because Rovers won. I can't speak for others Reg, so will leave it there. Great game yesterday, totally deserved win and a good atmosphere. So yes, thoroughly enjoyed it! Have to say that the critical comments about the ref seem unfair to me as thought he managed the game really well. Whelan should have known better than to concede 2 soft yellow cards but thankfully the resilience of the players meant it didn't matter. Josh Grant magnificent and hopefully the substitution was precautionary only. Your absence was duly noted and it was pointed out that the first two rounds next week are on you and the Green nosed one. UTG. I was surprised to read Brady also had an issue with the Ref. Maybe you're right. It looks more like a pen every time I see it. |
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Post by mangogas15 on Nov 14, 2021 14:55:10 GMT
If he won the CL with Rovers I do not believe that you would stick to your principles. Mango, with all respect Sir. You just don't get it do you? The CL comment is wildly exaggerated, he can only hope to win us promotion from this league if he stops being a d**k, then in 2 years time if he is still here, would everyone feel the same? Especially if we are top half L1. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Nov 14, 2021 15:19:56 GMT
A slightly more significant goal. Plus DC could do no wrong in my eyes. I take your point. Will keep my thoughts on Barton to myself. I'm happy for everyone who enjoyed yesterday's game. I wish I could share the joy but I'm afraid I struggle to connect with Rovers atm. Hoping for an early or late birthday present for myself and Dr F Oh.... that's a shame .... I advocate free speech and freedom of expression, obviously with no incitement to violence, which your posts have never done.... and no matter how much agree or disagree, welcome opinion. I like the celebration of Gas goals, because it's one of the few, very few times we are united in time as a fanbase! .... and to observe reaction of others at that moment is..... stimulating. |
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 14, 2021 15:32:04 GMT
Mango, with all respect Sir. You just don't get it do you? The CL comment is wildly exaggerated, he can only hope to win us promotion from this league if he stops being a d**k, then in 2 years time if he is still here, would everyone feel the same? Especially if we are top half L1. It doesn't matter if Rovers have successive promotions under Barton. I'm not going to spend 1p on Bristol Rovers if he is our manager. That is my decision. I respect others who still actively support the Club. That is there decision. |
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Post by Angas on Nov 14, 2021 16:48:34 GMT
A slightly more significant goal. Plus DC could do no wrong in my eyes. I take your point. Will keep my thoughts on Barton to myself. I'm happy for everyone who enjoyed yesterday's game. I wish I could share the joy but I'm afraid I struggle to connect with Rovers atm. Hoping for an early or late birthday present for myself and Dr F Oh.... that's a shame .... I advocate free speech and freedom of expression, obviously with no incitement to violence, which your posts have never done.... and no matter how much agree or disagree, welcome opinion. I like the celebration of Gas goals, because it's one of the few, very few times we are united in time as a fanbase! .... and to observe reaction of others at that moment is..... stimulating. I suspect I won't keep my thoughts to myself for very long. Can't help myself I'm afraid |
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