JeffNZ
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Post by JeffNZ on Aug 28, 2021 17:13:15 GMT
Emperor you are going to have to work on your comedy. Best comedy is drawn from the real world and semi believable based on reality. That comment is pure fantasy  it’s factually correct, we would have been six off the top. looking at fixtures I think 14 points from next 18, that’s not been disproved yet. I'm winning Lotto next week, that’s not been disproved yet. |
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Post by eppinggas on Aug 28, 2021 17:16:58 GMT
Barrow are 4th favourites for relegation (4-1). And people think a draw would be a decent result. Just look how far we have fallen in the last couple of years. That win away to Ipswich seems like it belongs to a bygone era. So if I consider your point Epping and our current predicament, trying to bed in players,unfit players,injuries and as yet unsigned players,I would'nt be disapointed with a draw. It's a long old season as we know even if some conveniently forget now and again. "bed in players". What - the ones who can't find a starting place at Accrington, Fleetwood, Morecambe etc? On League 1 salaries. "unfit players". What - the ones that Barton signed? "injuries". What - injuries picked up by us, despite Barton bitterly complaining about our previous fitness regime? "as yet unsigned players". Whelan? Leon Clarke? FFS. At least we're agreed on the last point. It's going to be a very very very long season at this rate. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 28, 2021 17:21:42 GMT
So if I consider your point Epping and our current predicament, trying to bed in players,unfit players,injuries and as yet unsigned players,I would'nt be disapointed with a draw. It's a long old season as we know even if some conveniently forget now and again. "bed in players". What - the ones who can't find a starting place at Accrington, Fleetwood, Morecambe etc? On League 1 salaries. "unfit players". What - the ones that Barton signed? "injuries". What - injuries picked up by us, despite Barton bitterly complaining about our previous fitness regime? "as yet unsigned players". Whelan? Leon Clarke? FFS. At least we're agreed on the last point. It's going to be a very very very long season at this rate. NL BRFC…again |
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Post by Blue Mist on Aug 28, 2021 17:24:19 GMT
Abysmal result against a not very good side with 10 players on the pitch. You just cant excuse this imo.
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Aug 28, 2021 17:24:35 GMT
Couts and Hughes were pedestrian to say the least. Barton did his leaning on the dugout routine again second half when he should have been coaching them against ten men. Barrow deserved to win based on their spirit alone.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2021 17:34:37 GMT
Emperor you are going to have to work on your comedy. Best comedy is drawn from the real world and semi believable based on reality. That comment is pure fantasy it’s factually correct, we would have been six off the top. looking at fixtures I think 14 points from next 18, that’s not been disproved yet. Neither is Russell's teapot. |
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Post by tanksfull on Aug 28, 2021 17:35:30 GMT
I even want him to go based on results now.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Aug 28, 2021 17:37:30 GMT
He had been allowed to change nearly every player, so to sack him now half dozen games in is far to premature this season. So would anytime in September and October be premature, newly assembled sides take time to click. The board should meet on the Day of the Dead and decide then if points and performances are worthy of sacking - not a day sooner. Not sure what you've been up to today, so just to bring you up to speed, we've just played Barrow (no, me neither), they had someone sent off with only 30 minutes played, we took the lead but we ended up drawing the game, and from limited early reports and match stats it doesn't sound like one of those fluke games where balls keep bouncing off of posts and hitting defenders who have fallen over on the goal line, it sounds like Barrow with 10 players were a match for Bristol Rovers with 11. With how much worse Barton made our form last season, what exactly is the point of allowing this to continue? When we lost a game a few weeks back the tired old 'Time to gel' excuse was wheeled out, so I went to the opposition's website and found that they had the exact same number of new players on the field that day as we did. Do I really need to trawl over the Barrow website to see what signings they have, as they'll have some new players. It's a lame excuse and always has been. “no, me neither”. You’ve forgotten their win at the mem against Clark’s side? I’m not a contrarian. I’m just playing it cool, and balanced. The first half today was good. The second half today tainted by the fact they only had ten men, so it raises expectation levels. You wouldn’t expect rovers to just roll over with ten men? It’s never that straightforward to capitalise man advantage. How many times did we prove that at Trashton when Alexander used to turn up with bubble bath for extra long soak? Lots of sides thst run away with titles get off to iffy starts. Man City last year. Swindon when they romped this league. I am confident the club have brought some good players in here, and we can go on some decent runs. I don’t think 3 at back 2 up helps us transition quickly, up against ten men in particular. 4 4 2 would be solid and get us on front foot quicker, stretch it quicker. After that preamble, now for the major mistake you are all making. Last season does not count. Stop adding it on. Stop having your thoughts shaped by it. We just allowed the manager a major overhaul, you have to give that at least three and a half months to say it’s not working. what if you keep allowing managers resets, add the previous season on whilst they move us into mid table as it comes together and sack them far too soon? Attachment Deleted |
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Aug 28, 2021 17:44:17 GMT
it’s factually correct, we would have been six off the top. looking at fixtures I think 14 points from next 18, that’s not been disproved yet. I'm winning Lotto next week, that’s not been disproved yet. That’s another factual statement. |
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Aug 28, 2021 17:46:38 GMT
it’s factually correct, we would have been six off the top. looking at fixtures I think 14 points from next 18, that’s not been disproved yet. Neither is Russell's teapot. Here’s the coming fixtures and my prediction. Crawley relegation candidates h - we will win Pool a - toughie, but why not a draw Orient h - covid victims Harrogate went there and won, but why not a home win Walsall relegation candidates a - we will win Swindon h - doesn’t bear thinking about losing, there will be loads of aggression to Ben and lots of pro Barton support in this noisy derby fixture, I predict win Carlisle a - why not at least point |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2021 17:53:49 GMT
Not sure what you've been up to today, so just to bring you up to speed, we've just played Barrow (no, me neither), they had someone sent off with only 30 minutes played, we took the lead but we ended up drawing the game, and from limited early reports and match stats it doesn't sound like one of those fluke games where balls keep bouncing off of posts and hitting defenders who have fallen over on the goal line, it sounds like Barrow with 10 players were a match for Bristol Rovers with 11. With how much worse Barton made our form last season, what exactly is the point of allowing this to continue? When we lost a game a few weeks back the tired old 'Time to gel' excuse was wheeled out, so I went to the opposition's website and found that they had the exact same number of new players on the field that day as we did. Do I really need to trawl over the Barrow website to see what signings they have, as they'll have some new players. It's a lame excuse and always has been. “no, me neither”. You’ve forgotten their win at the mem against Clark’s side? I’m not a contrarian. I’m just playing it cool, and balanced. The first half today was good. The second half today tainted by the fact they only had ten men, so it raises expectation levels. You wouldn’t expect rovers to just roll over with ten men? It’s never that straightforward to capitalise man advantage. How many times did we prove that at Trashton when Alexander used to turn up with bubble bath for extra long soak? Lots of sides thst run away with titles get off to iffy starts. Man City last year. Swindon when they romped this league. I am confident the club have brought some good players in here, and we can go on some decent runs. I don’t think 3 at back 2 up helps us transition quickly, up against ten men in particular. 4 4 2 would be solid and get us on front foot quicker, stretch it quicker. After that preamble, now for the major mistake you are all making. Last season does not count. Stop adding it on. Stop having your thoughts shaped by it. We just allowed the manager a major overhaul, you have to give that at least three and a half months to say it’s not working. what if you keep allowing managers resets, add the previous season on whilst they move us into mid table as it comes together and sack them far too soon? View AttachmentWe'll see. I predict more of the same, with Barton quite possibly deciding that not being able to hold his own in this hoof-and-hope division is 'beneath' him and him walking away blaming the club for not supporting him and not recruiting the players he wanted. |
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Post by lostinspace on Aug 28, 2021 18:17:17 GMT
Substitute George Williams fired goalwards and midfielder Ollie Banks helped the ball past James Belshaw for his first goal for the club since moving to Holker Street from Tranmere in January.
Despite their one-man disadvantage Barrow looked the side most likely to claim the win for much of the second half and Josh Gordon drilled a shot against the crossbar for after George Williams tested Belshaw from distance.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Aug 28, 2021 18:20:31 GMT
Substitute George Williams fired goalwards and midfielder Ollie Banks helped the ball past James Belshaw for his first goal for the club since moving to Holker Street from Tranmere in January. Despite their one-man disadvantage Barrow looked the side most likely to claim the win for much of the second half and Josh Gordon drilled a shot against the crossbar for after George Williams tested Belshaw from distance. excerpt from the bbc report “Rovers piled on the pressure in the closing minutes, Paul Farman saving superbly from Harry Anderson, but Barrow stood firm to claim a point.”. Another expert from the BBC report. What’s selective quoting from reports supposed to do with having a balanced and reasoned opinion and buy Joey more time to get it right. |
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Post by phil74 on Aug 28, 2021 18:28:28 GMT
Not sure what you've been up to today, so just to bring you up to speed, we've just played Barrow (no, me neither), they had someone sent off with only 30 minutes played, we took the lead but we ended up drawing the game, and from limited early reports and match stats it doesn't sound like one of those fluke games where balls keep bouncing off of posts and hitting defenders who have fallen over on the goal line, it sounds like Barrow with 10 players were a match for Bristol Rovers with 11. With how much worse Barton made our form last season, what exactly is the point of allowing this to continue? When we lost a game a few weeks back the tired old 'Time to gel' excuse was wheeled out, so I went to the opposition's website and found that they had the exact same number of new players on the field that day as we did. Do I really need to trawl over the Barrow website to see what signings they have, as they'll have some new players. It's a lame excuse and always has been. “no, me neither”. You’ve forgotten their win at the mem against Clark’s side? I’m not a contrarian. I’m just playing it cool, and balanced. The first half today was good. The second half today tainted by the fact they only had ten men, so it raises expectation levels. You wouldn’t expect rovers to just roll over with ten men? It’s never that straightforward to capitalise man advantage. How many times did we prove that at Trashton when Alexander used to turn up with bubble bath for extra long soak? Lots of sides thst run away with titles get off to iffy starts. Man City last year. Swindon when they romped this league. I am confident the club have brought some good players in here, and we can go on some decent runs. I don’t think 3 at back 2 up helps us transition quickly, up against ten men in particular. 4 4 2 would be solid and get us on front foot quicker, stretch it quicker. After that preamble, now for the major mistake you are all making. Last season does not count. Stop adding it on. Stop having your thoughts shaped by it. We just allowed the manager a major overhaul, you have to give that at least three and a half months to say it’s not working. what if you keep allowing managers resets, add the previous season on whilst they move us into mid table as it comes together and sack them far too soon? View AttachmentHey Emperor, Your faith gives me some additional confidence - which is in very short supply. I feel we have the players - but NOT the manager. The tactical set-up is wrong. Will he realise and even acknowledge this? 3 at the back and 2 up top isn't working. Why not 4-5-1 pressing into a 4-3-3? |
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Post by sethstarkadder on Aug 28, 2021 18:37:25 GMT
Emperor you are going to have to work on your comedy. Best comedy is drawn from the real world and semi believable based on reality. That comment is pure fantasy it’s factually correct, we would have been six off the top. looking at fixtures I think 14 points from next 18, that’s not been disproved yet. Well Bullsh1t Barton foretold (without showing any workings out) that we'd be in a promotion challenge from League 1 by now. That's been disproved. Maybe we should consider that, especially as he's still not showing that he's got anything in his tool kit other than self-belief and hectoring, but also seems to have an unfortunate tendency to have everyone and everything around him repeatedly screw up (apparently). |
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Aug 28, 2021 18:47:49 GMT
“no, me neither”. You’ve forgotten their win at the mem against Clark’s side? I’m not a contrarian. I’m just playing it cool, and balanced. The first half today was good. The second half today tainted by the fact they only had ten men, so it raises expectation levels. You wouldn’t expect rovers to just roll over with ten men? It’s never that straightforward to capitalise man advantage. How many times did we prove that at Trashton when Alexander used to turn up with bubble bath for extra long soak? Lots of sides thst run away with titles get off to iffy starts. Man City last year. Swindon when they romped this league. I am confident the club have brought some good players in here, and we can go on some decent runs. I don’t think 3 at back 2 up helps us transition quickly, up against ten men in particular. 4 4 2 would be solid and get us on front foot quicker, stretch it quicker. After that preamble, now for the major mistake you are all making. Last season does not count. Stop adding it on. Stop having your thoughts shaped by it. We just allowed the manager a major overhaul, you have to give that at least three and a half months to say it’s not working. what if you keep allowing managers resets, add the previous season on whilst they move us into mid table as it comes together and sack them far too soon? View AttachmentHey Emperor, Your faith gives me some additional confidence - which is in very short supply. I feel we have the players - but NOT the manager. The tactical set-up is wrong. Will he realise and even acknowledge this? 3 at the back and 2 up top isn't working. Why not 4-5-1 pressing into a 4-3-3? I agree with you in the first part. Taylor, Hughes, Anderton, Finley, Thomas, Anderson, Pitman all look like good players in inconsistent team performance. If time proves they are good, some credit to the manager and club for bringing them in. i agree the formation isn’t the best. It’s almost like it’s not Joey’s preference either but getting desperate for some one nil wins, thinks this is his best option. Same call Southgatevmade in the final. When a side is searching around for momentum, 4 4 2 is often a good start. Maybe the duty’s in that just come naturally to players. 3 at the back suggests you have pretty natural wing backs, whose first skill set is clean sheet, secondary skill set is not just over lap, but ability to step into midfield and help you with numbers in midfield. Why that is important is midfield can always do with help from simple pass option to keep ball moving at pace and cover allowing the press and challenge. We don’t really have natural wing backs allowing 3 centre backs selection. in modern football two sit deep in midfield in 4 2 3 1 not just to mark space but add to the passing game. If you are playing three centre backs who can’t pass it well from deep, it’s putting the rest of the team at a ball playing, pace in their game disadvantage IMO. |
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Post by laughinggas on Aug 28, 2021 18:48:00 GMT
He went on in his post match interview how many players have left and how many more could leave this window.
Like he was told he had to get rid!
Don't believe that is the case more his ranting on about look I'm going to get this right.
Sorry no faith in th coach.
Basel still think he's the man?
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Aug 28, 2021 18:53:20 GMT
He went on in his post match interview how many players have left and how many more could leave this window. Like he was told he had to get rid! Don't believe that is the case more his ranting on about look I'm going to get this right. Sorry no faith in th coach. Basel still think he's the man? let’s see how many points the next six games haul in, I’m predicting 14, with some degree of confidence. |
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Post by pegsan007 on Aug 28, 2021 18:56:53 GMT
Same old sh1t Barton excuses excuses.....just another day !!!! And this is how sad it has got........Barton OUT
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Post by lostinspace on Aug 28, 2021 19:04:48 GMT
Substitute George Williams fired goalwards and midfielder Ollie Banks helped the ball past James Belshaw for his first goal for the club since moving to Holker Street from Tranmere in January. Despite their one-man disadvantage Barrow looked the side most likely to claim the win for much of the second half and Josh Gordon drilled a shot against the crossbar for after George Williams tested Belshaw from distance. excerpt from the bbc report “Rovers piled on the pressure in the closing minutes, Paul Farman saving superbly from Harry Anderson, but Barrow stood firm to claim a point.”. Another expert from the BBC report. What’s selective quoting from reports supposed to do with having a balanced and reasoned opinion and buy Joey more time to get it right. what is called headline grabbing......... even on a football forum as opposed to a daily rag where it happens almost daily with selective choice of news to create the desired effect |
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