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Post by phil74 on Aug 22, 2021 6:12:51 GMT
JB didn't acknowledge his tactical plan at all in the post-match interview. Why did he set the team up as he did? What was the theory behind it?
He talks a good game, but where is the real insight? At least Darrell was always honest enough to admit when he'd made mistakes. We quite often saw poor first half performances due to the team shape being wrong. DC would change it, things would usually improve and he'd acknowledge it afterwards.
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Post by eppinggas on Aug 22, 2021 7:30:52 GMT
Barton’s plan hasn’t sunk in on the players yet. Though only 3 points off playoffs and 4 off automatic, will all those points to play for! Agreed. Though today was rubbish. You think we can still challenge Bas? |
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Post by mangogas15 on Aug 22, 2021 7:55:47 GMT
JB didn't acknowledge his tactical plan at all in the post-match interview. Why did he set the team up as he did? What was the theory behind it? He talks a good game, but where is the real insight? At least Darrell was always honest enough to admit when he'd made mistakes. We quite often saw poor first half performances due to the team shape being wrong. DC would change it, things would usually improve and he'd acknowledge it afterwards. Clarke used to talk about I instead of We a lot. Barton went from 3 at the back to 4 at half time, maybe should have done so at 30 mins. I don't expect Barton to take a lot of responsibility for that performance outwardly, the only proof will be how we react vs Barrow. Take care of DC glasses, I remember the half time reactions as you do, but they didn't work once all the strikers had gone. They didn't work when he had brought in Nicholls and Bennett. |
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Post by laughinggas on Aug 22, 2021 8:22:40 GMT
Thought we just swapped Grant in for Baldwin to stay with a three.
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Post by baselswh on Aug 22, 2021 8:28:12 GMT
Agreed. Though today was rubbish. You think we can still challenge Bas? Yes. I imagine WAQ and JB have a 'war cabinet' meeting ,to discuss a signing or two. |
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Post by laughinggas on Aug 22, 2021 8:35:42 GMT
Never saw a replay of Pitman's disallowed goal.
Was a very good finish assume he was offside.
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Post by mangogas15 on Aug 22, 2021 9:16:01 GMT
Thought we just swapped Grant in for Baldwin to stay with a three. You may be right, I just assumed given the changes. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 9:20:46 GMT
Never saw a replay of Pitman's disallowed goal. Was a very good finish assume he was offside. It wasn't a disallowed goal, the whistle had gone long before he struck the ball and everybody else had stopped. Great strike of the ball though but pot kettle black here, the bloke has the body of a Sunday League player. |
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Post by bloogas on Aug 22, 2021 9:37:08 GMT
JB didn't acknowledge his tactical plan at all in the post-match interview. Why did he set the team up as he did? What was the theory behind it? Did you by any chance catch BBC Radio Devon's report and opinion on the game? My buddy and I did as we drove out of Exeter. It was rather surprising. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 9:40:34 GMT
JB didn't acknowledge his tactical plan at all in the post-match interview. Why did he set the team up as he did? What was the theory behind it? Did you by any chance catch BBC Radio Devon's report and opinion on the game? My buddy and I did as we drove out of Exeter. It was rather surprising. In what way? |
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Post by bloogas on Aug 22, 2021 9:57:32 GMT
Did you by any chance catch BBC Radio Devon's report and opinion on the game? My buddy and I did as we drove out of Exeter. It was rather surprising. In what way? They thought we were far more of a threat than we do, almost that Exeter were hanging on as we could have got back into the game. They did refer to the WBs not tracking back and giving much support. Their opinions, not mine, just saying. The BBC stats were also surprising and I can barely believe them. |
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Post by baselswh on Aug 22, 2021 10:01:40 GMT
They thought we were far more of a threat than we do, almost that Exeter were hanging on as we could have got back into the game. They did refer to the WBs not tracking back and giving much support. Their opinions, not mine, just saying. The BBC stats were also surprising and I can barely believe them. A Grecian mate of mine just told me that apart from the first 25 minutes there was nothing in it. Obviously this does'nt excuse those bloody awful 25 minutes,we were rubbish ,but as long as lessons are being learnt through this very testing time, we should be okay. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 10:04:35 GMT
We should be aspiring to more than "should be ok" in Division 4.
The only promotion we'll get with this clown in charge, is a buy one get one free, when we sign our next load of backroom advisors.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 10:04:45 GMT
They thought we were far more of a threat than we do, almost that Exeter were hanging on as we could have got back into the game. They did refer to the WBs not tracking back and giving much support. Their opinions, not mine, just saying. The BBC stats were also surprising and I can barely believe them. The game was over after 25 minutes and despite us scoring one goal were were never going to get back into the game. Exeter simply saw the game out and nearly scored a couple more themselves. One Exeter wag explained our high possession rate as being down to the fact that we took most of the kick offs.  The reporter was probably an Argyle fan, there are plenty of them on there. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 10:06:25 GMT
They thought we were far more of a threat than we do, almost that Exeter were hanging on as we could have got back into the game. They did refer to the WBs not tracking back and giving much support. Their opinions, not mine, just saying. The BBC stats were also surprising and I can barely believe them. A Grecian mate of mine just told me that apart from the first 25 minutes there was nothing in it. Obviously this does'nt excuse those bloody awful 25 minutes,we were rubbish ,but as long as lessons are being learnt through this very testing time, we should be okay. That made me laugh Basel. Apart from Exeter's 4 goals we would have won 0-1.  |
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Post by baselswh on Aug 22, 2021 10:11:14 GMT
A Grecian mate of mine just told me that apart from the first 25 minutes there was nothing in it. Obviously this does'nt excuse those bloody awful 25 minutes,we were rubbish ,but as long as lessons are being learnt through this very testing time, we should be okay. That made me laugh Basel. Apart from Exeter's 4 goals we would have won 0-1. Haha!Yes mate,he also mentioned - and delivered with wry smile that almost immediately developed into open chuckle -, that Rovers won the 2nd half 0 1. 🙃 |
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Post by phil74 on Aug 22, 2021 10:23:48 GMT
JB didn't acknowledge his tactical plan at all in the post-match interview. Why did he set the team up as he did? What was the theory behind it? He talks a good game, but where is the real insight? At least Darrell was always honest enough to admit when he'd made mistakes. We quite often saw poor first half performances due to the team shape being wrong. DC would change it, things would usually improve and he'd acknowledge it afterwards. Clarke used to talk about I instead of We a lot. Barton went from 3 at the back to 4 at half time, maybe should have done so at 30 mins. I don't expect Barton to take a lot of responsibility for that performance outwardly, the only proof will be how we react vs Barrow. Take care of DC glasses, I remember the half time reactions as you do, but they didn't work once all the strikers had gone. They didn't work when he had brought in Nicholls and Bennett. Hey mango. Yes, you're right regarding rose-tinted spectacles. DC did also spend an increasing amount of time publicly criticising the board - something JB is not doing. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 22, 2021 11:55:07 GMT
Seems like the haters got their chance to really hate today… He ain’t going anywhere, even if we don’t win again until October. Barton was right on Radio Bristol. There is a cancer at the club, and has been for a long time. It ain’t just the playing side of it though, and our level of influence as fans is exactly zero. I don’t agree with the first sentence but spot on with the rest. Barton has set himself up for the comments after saying what he keeps saying. This IS his team. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 22, 2021 12:03:14 GMT
I really do not like comparing a very horrible medical condition with the problems of a football club. Using the C word is not appropriate at all, in my opinion.
If there are deep-rooted issues within a football club (as a fan I have no visibility of this), why on earth would that have an effect on the short-term performance of the first team? Long term performance yes, short term no.
As far as I can see, we have a competitive budget (as we did last season). The manager should be able to put out a team capable of winning football matches having dropped to a lower division. If we had got promoted to The Championship and we were getting thumped every week, then this would be understandable.
Time is quickly running out for these kinds of excuses. This is JB's team and squad by design. His record this season (ignoring last season's horrible record) is very poor. I really hope we turn the corner soon for all of our sakes...
There may be deep-rooted issues within the club (the new training ground would suggest otherwise IMO), but there are measurable deep-rooted issues within the first team. Namely that in season two after a heavy reset, we still cannot score more than one goal per game and as a result are vulnerable to playing opponents that can.
Very well put. Here's another theory. If, for example, the manager of a football club were also to be a narcissist - then the most important thing to them would be to ensure they were centre of attention at all times. Drama would be created and perpetuated to ensure it. No responsibility would be taken for anything that went wrong. Indeed, a form of "gas-lighting" would take place: starting with shaming players and previous managers before moving onto the new players they'd signed themselves and eventually the fans. Better to run the ship aground and destroy everything than risk anyone else being successful, or - worst of all - not getting any attention or recognition in the first place. Anyway, it's just a theory... This was my worry from the day we got sold to the family. My historical posts will show that. I am glad someone else sees it the way I do but gutted it’s at Rovers, why couldn’t Gillingham have said yes ! |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 22, 2021 12:11:13 GMT
Some very good goals, ours included. |
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