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Post by fatherjackhackett on Aug 21, 2021 17:52:04 GMT
Joey and Wael Pay the fans tickets who went I hate this attitude. If you want to save money from watching Rovers, don’t bloody well go in the first place. Simples. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2021 17:54:38 GMT
"It was always going to be tricky this start. I’ve been in the game a long long time and you can’t (just) cut the cancer out of a club like we have done since we’ve been here.
"We’ve got bits to do, clearly we’re not fully in remission and recovered."
So said the complete bellend of a manager we still (miraculously) employ.
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Post by bluetornados on Aug 21, 2021 18:21:18 GMT
We had 54% of the play, 19 shots, 9 shots on target and only scored a consolation goal in the 70th minute, to little too late.
Report From the BBC:
Exeter hammered a dire Bristol Rovers 4-1 with a devastating first-half display in which they scored all of their goals.
Exeter made a superb start and opened the scoring inside three minutes. Padraig Amond's shot was saved by James Belshaw and Matt Jay finished the rebound from close range.
It was 2-0 after 15 minutes and it was Jay again, the diminutive frontman getting across his man and brilliantly turning in Josh Key's low cross from 10 yards.
The rampant hosts added a third goal in the 22nd minute when a superb move ended with Jevani Brown crossing for Tim Dieng to nod in from close range, and Harry Kite then curled a beauty into the corner from 20 yards after 24 minutes.
It could have been more as Exeter missed some clear-cut chances while a Paul Coutts shot, saved by Cam Dawson, was as good as it got for Rovers in a dreadful first half.
Jay was denied his hat-trick by a superb save by Belshaw immediately after the restart as Exeter sought more goals.
Rovers pulled a goal back in the 70th minute when Sam Finley curled a wonderful shot into the top corner from 25 yards, but it was no more than scant consolation for the well-beaten Pirates.
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Post by sethstarkadder on Aug 21, 2021 18:32:39 GMT
"It was always going to be tricky this start. I’ve been in the game a long long time and you can’t (just) cut the cancer out of a club like we have done since we’ve been here. "We’ve got bits to do, clearly we’re not fully in remission and recovered." So said the complete bellend of a manager we still (miraculously) employ. If he's going to go all medical on our arses, the first rule of medicine is 'First don't do any harm'. In his case that meant keeping us out of the bottom four last season, which he breezily took as a non-issue when he arrived. His swing a meat cleaver and talk bollox approach to surgery killed that patient, and still doesn't strike me as a good way forward. BTW, I don't like anyone being called or associated with 'a cancer', but that disregard of other people is kind of expected from him (and is one of the things that means he'll never make a good manager). |
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Post by towngas on Aug 21, 2021 19:14:54 GMT
Just got back. We were total, utter Sh1t . It was embarrassing.
That is all.
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Post by richmace on Aug 21, 2021 19:16:23 GMT
"It was always going to be tricky this start. I’ve been in the game a long long time and you can’t (just) cut the cancer out of a club like we have done since we’ve been here. "We’ve got bits to do, clearly we’re not fully in remission and recovered." So said the complete bellend of a manager we still (miraculously) employ. I really do not like comparing a very horrible medical condition with the problems of a football club. Using the C word is not appropriate at all, in my opinion.
If there are deep-rooted issues within a football club (as a fan I have no visibility of this), why on earth would that have an effect on the short-term performance of the first team? Long term performance yes, short term no.
As far as I can see, we have a competitive budget (as we did last season). The manager should be able to put out a team capable of winning football matches having dropped to a lower division. If we had got promoted to The Championship and we were getting thumped every week, then this would be understandable.
Time is quickly running out for these kinds of excuses. This is JB's team and squad by design. His record this season (ignoring last season's horrible record) is very poor. I really hope we turn the corner soon for all of our sakes...
There may be deep-rooted issues within the club (the new training ground would suggest otherwise IMO), but there are measurable deep-rooted issues within the first team. Namely that in season two after a heavy reset, we still cannot score more than one goal per game and as a result are vulnerable to playing opponents that can.
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Post by bluetornados on Aug 21, 2021 19:29:31 GMT
They are nicknamed The Grecians. They have 3 'e's in their name. They are probably a team you would forget if trying to name the 92. Their last win was 2-1 away to Bolton on 1st May. They have not scored in 4 games this season, losing 4-3 on pens to Wycombe Wanderers in the cup. Padraig Amond joined on loan from Newport recently and I have also heard of Matt Jay, i think... Their manager is one of the Matt Taylors. I think it's the one who scored that really long goal v Sunderland in the Prem for Portsmouth. The head to head is 31 wins for Rovers, 31 draws and 29 wins for Exeter. Very close. The first time they played was in May 1921. Rovers winning 5-0, but they lost to them 1-0 5 days later. The last time in the league was a 3-1 win at the Mem in April 2016, goals from Bodin, Brown and Taylor. Jayden Stockley and Ollie Watkins started on that day. The last visit to St James Park in the league saw a 1-1 draw where Sinclair scored late only for an equaliser in the 90th minute. Their main rivals are Plymouth. They have a capacity of 8,541. They were founded in 1904. Terry Cooper and Paul Tisdale managed both clubs, that is where the comparison ends... We certainly helped them out today with their scoring problems. Crowd was 5,284 |
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Post by JeffNZ on Aug 21, 2021 19:34:51 GMT
Just got back. We were total, utter Sh1t . It was embarrassing. That is all. Good on you for going all those Gasheads deserve better, much better. The performance against Oldham was not as good as some are proclaiming, I thought we were slightly better than an extremely poor Oldham side. A standard that will see both teams in the Conference next season. This latest result and performance confirms we are doomed to (yet) another dismal season if Barton stays in charge. Wael, please show you have learned from the disastrous Garner experiment and act now, not a dozen or so games from the end of the season. |
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Post by sethstarkadder on Aug 21, 2021 19:37:27 GMT
"It was always going to be tricky this start. I’ve been in the game a long long time and you can’t (just) cut the cancer out of a club like we have done since we’ve been here. "We’ve got bits to do, clearly we’re not fully in remission and recovered." So said the complete bellend of a manager we still (miraculously) employ. I really do not like comparing a very horrible medical condition with the problems of a football club. Using the C word is not appropriate at all, in my opinion.
If there are deep-rooted issues within a football club (as a fan I have no visibility of this), why on earth would that have an effect on the short-term performance of the first team? Long term performance yes, short term no.
As far as I can see, we have a competitive budget (as we did last season). The manager should be able to put out a team capable of winning football matches having dropped to a lower division. If we had got promoted to The Championship and we were getting thumped every week, then this would be understandable.
Time is quickly running out for these kinds of excuses. This is JB's team and squad by design. His record this season (ignoring last season's horrible record) is very poor. I really hope we turn the corner soon for all of our sakes...
There may be deep-rooted issues within the club (the new training ground would suggest otherwise IMO), but there are measurable deep-rooted issues within the first team. Namely that in season two after a heavy reset, we still cannot score more than one goal per game and as a result are vulnerable to playing opponents that can.
This whole 'everything must go', 'everyone and everything was dreadful' and 'thank God I'm here' schtick doesn't work with me. In fact I think it's lazy and makes him look inadequate. Everything and everyone was not crap. All might not have been fabulous, and he wouldn't have been brought in if it were, but good and bad, strengths and weaknesses, yada yada. The only difference between a set-up not [once, briefly?] in the relegation zone from August[whenever] to February, and a set-up adrift at the bottom come the start of May, was him, so I'm reluctant to throw blame wherever he's pointing. |
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Post by phil74 on Aug 21, 2021 19:50:07 GMT
"It was always going to be tricky this start. I’ve been in the game a long long time and you can’t (just) cut the cancer out of a club like we have done since we’ve been here. "We’ve got bits to do, clearly we’re not fully in remission and recovered." So said the complete bellend of a manager we still (miraculously) employ. I really do not like comparing a very horrible medical condition with the problems of a football club. Using the C word is not appropriate at all, in my opinion.
If there are deep-rooted issues within a football club (as a fan I have no visibility of this), why on earth would that have an effect on the short-term performance of the first team? Long term performance yes, short term no.
As far as I can see, we have a competitive budget (as we did last season). The manager should be able to put out a team capable of winning football matches having dropped to a lower division. If we had got promoted to The Championship and we were getting thumped every week, then this would be understandable.
Time is quickly running out for these kinds of excuses. This is JB's team and squad by design. His record this season (ignoring last season's horrible record) is very poor. I really hope we turn the corner soon for all of our sakes...
There may be deep-rooted issues within the club (the new training ground would suggest otherwise IMO), but there are measurable deep-rooted issues within the first team. Namely that in season two after a heavy reset, we still cannot score more than one goal per game and as a result are vulnerable to playing opponents that can.
Very well put. Here's another theory. If, for example, the manager of a football club were also to be a narcissist - then the most important thing to them would be to ensure they were centre of attention at all times. Drama would be created and perpetuated to ensure it. No responsibility would be taken for anything that went wrong. Indeed, a form of "gas-lighting" would take place: starting with shaming players and previous managers before moving onto the new players they'd signed themselves and eventually the fans. Better to run the ship aground and destroy everything than risk anyone else being successful, or - worst of all - not getting any attention or recognition in the first place. Anyway, it's just a theory... |
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Post by mangogas15 on Aug 21, 2021 21:13:19 GMT
Joey and Wael Pay the fans tickets who went I hate this attitude. If you want to save money from watching Rovers, don’t bloody well go in the first place. Simples. Well, thanks for your input, I didn't spend a penny, I didn't go, I feel for those who did who had the same level of optimism going into that game that I did after Tuesday. There are some performances that are not acceptable, 6-1 v accrington, Northampton's similar performance at the mem 4 years ago. When people have spent £100+ of their hard earned supporting bollocks like that, there comes a time when the management need to do the right thing, Sunderland did it once, we have seen others do it. This is a forum for the fans and I bang the drum for the fans whether I went to the game or not. What is it about that attitude that anyone would hate. The manager and players are responsible for fans leaving 30.minutes into a game. |
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Aug 21, 2021 21:29:53 GMT
Seems like the haters got their chance to really hate today… He ain’t going anywhere, even if we don’t win again until October. Barton was right on Radio Bristol. There is a cancer at the club, and has been for a long time. It ain’t just the playing side of it though, and our level of influence as fans is exactly zero. What wingbacks should be, first and foremost, people capable of doing defensive job, where their talent comes in, and not every fullback or wide player can do it, is then to judiciously support the attack, not just overlap but step inside to help midfield. What Joey did today was play 3 centre backs, and ask attack minded wide players to come back and help out. You will play this 10 times and it’s not always going to be the same disaster, but it will always have a question mark over it, what acerbated it today is players trying to learn systems as well especially as Joey changes from back four to three and personnel in roles. Some defensive midfield ability was out there, but played centrally, the problem for us was defending the flanks. If you dont have 3 or 4 pretty decent wing backs at your club, you don’t set your team out in wing back system. Simples. I’m calling for Grant to be given run at left back and keep it to a back four - let’s at least get familiar with one system before trying to develop a second. |
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Aug 21, 2021 21:35:40 GMT
"It was always going to be tricky this start. I’ve been in the game a long long time and you can’t (just) cut the cancer out of a club like we have done since we’ve been here. "We’ve got bits to do, clearly we’re not fully in remission and recovered." So said the complete bellend of a manager we still (miraculously) employ. I really do not like comparing a very horrible medical condition with the problems of a football club. Using the C word is not appropriate at all, in my opinion.
If there are deep-rooted issues within a football club (as a fan I have no visibility of this), why on earth would that have an effect on the short-term performance of the first team? Long term performance yes, short term no.
As far as I can see, we have a competitive budget (as we did last season). The manager should be able to put out a team capable of winning football matches having dropped to a lower division. If we had got promoted to The Championship and we were getting thumped every week, then this would be understandable.
Time is quickly running out for these kinds of excuses. This is JB's team and squad by design. His record this season (ignoring last season's horrible record) is very poor. I really hope we turn the corner soon for all of our sakes...
There may be deep-rooted issues within the club (the new training ground would suggest otherwise IMO), but there are measurable deep-rooted issues within the first team. Namely that in season two after a heavy reset, we still cannot score more than one goal per game and as a result are vulnerable to playing opponents that can.
as Fatherjack has posted, Joey and many fans feel their is a cancer at this club. Both manager and fans also blame Ben Garner for Rovers relegation. What are you going to do, go down to the ground that day and try to shield Ben from everything coming at him? |
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Aug 21, 2021 21:38:19 GMT
Just got back. We were total, utter Sh1t . It was embarrassing. That is all. Good on you for going all those Gasheads deserve better, much better. The performance against Oldham was not as good as some are proclaiming, I thought we were slightly better than an extremely poor Oldham side. A standard that will see both teams in the Conference next season. This latest result and performance confirms we are doomed to (yet) another dismal season if Barton stays in charge. Wael, please show you have learned from the disastrous Garner experiment and act now, not a dozen or so games from the end of the season. “Good on you for going all those Gasheads deserve better” As Joey walked across to applaud his fan club, the travelling fans unfurled IN BARTON WE TRUST banner. |
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Post by richmace on Aug 21, 2021 22:24:52 GMT
I really do not like comparing a very horrible medical condition with the problems of a football club. Using the C word is not appropriate at all, in my opinion.
If there are deep-rooted issues within a football club (as a fan I have no visibility of this), why on earth would that have an effect on the short-term performance of the first team? Long term performance yes, short term no.
As far as I can see, we have a competitive budget (as we did last season). The manager should be able to put out a team capable of winning football matches having dropped to a lower division. If we had got promoted to The Championship and we were getting thumped every week, then this would be understandable.
Time is quickly running out for these kinds of excuses. This is JB's team and squad by design. His record this season (ignoring last season's horrible record) is very poor. I really hope we turn the corner soon for all of our sakes...
There may be deep-rooted issues within the club (the new training ground would suggest otherwise IMO), but there are measurable deep-rooted issues within the first team. Namely that in season two after a heavy reset, we still cannot score more than one goal per game and as a result are vulnerable to playing opponents that can.
as Fatherjack has posted, Joey and many fans feel their is a cancer at this club. Both manager and fans also blame Ben Garner for Rovers relegation. What are you going to do, go down to the ground that day and try to shield Ben from everything coming at him? I don’t understand your reply to my post. I’m also not sure how Ben Garner is relevant to my post. If you are referring to the Swindon game at home, then BG will get abuse, of course he will. How is that connected to my post? |
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Post by laughinggas on Aug 21, 2021 22:40:06 GMT
Seems like the haters got their chance to really hate today… He ain’t going anywhere, even if we don’t win again until October. Barton was right on Radio Bristol. There is a cancer at the club, and has been for a long time. It ain’t just the playing side of it though, and our level of influence as fans is exactly zero. What wingbacks should be, first and foremost, people capable of doing defensive job, where their talent comes in, and not every fullback or wide player can do it, is then to judiciously support the attack, not just overlap but step inside to help midfield. What Joey did today was play 3 centre backs, and ask attack minded wide players to come back and help out. You will play this 10 times and it’s not always going to be the same disaster, but it will always have a question mark over it, what acerbated it today is players trying to learn systems as well especially as Joey changes from back four to three and personnel in roles. Some defensive midfield ability was out there, but played centrally, the problem for us was defending the flanks. If you dont have 3 or 4 pretty decent wing backs at your club, you don’t set your team out in wing back system. Simples. I’m calling for Grant to be given run at left back and keep it to a back four - let’s at least get familiar with one system before trying to develop a second. Tis odd, JB wants to play three at the back after getting rid of all our wing backs. |
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Post by JeffNZ on Aug 21, 2021 23:13:48 GMT
Good on you for going all those Gasheads deserve better, much better. The performance against Oldham was not as good as some are proclaiming, I thought we were slightly better than an extremely poor Oldham side. A standard that will see both teams in the Conference next season. This latest result and performance confirms we are doomed to (yet) another dismal season if Barton stays in charge. Wael, please show you have learned from the disastrous Garner experiment and act now, not a dozen or so games from the end of the season. “Good on you for going all those Gasheads deserve better” As Joey walked across to applaud his fan club, the travelling fans unfurled IN BARTON WE TRUST banner.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2021 23:17:43 GMT
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Post by bluetornados on Aug 21, 2021 23:22:10 GMT
“Good on you for going all those Gasheads deserve better” As Joey walked across to applaud his fan club, the travelling fans unfurled IN BARTON WE TRUST banner. The underlined comment sounds like a good idea for a christmas film. |
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Post by bluetornados on Aug 21, 2021 23:28:46 GMT
The goalkeepers made a few decent saves each, but free headers and very rookie defending in the first 22 minutes killed us dead, a great goal from Finley was the only highlight for us. |
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