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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2020 13:14:58 GMT
You are aware that we have empty stadiums and not enough income coming into the club? You seriously want wael to sanction yet more signings despite the massive losses all clubs at our level are enduring right now. Put the news on because there is a pandemic going on right now. Is this so say pandemic just going on in North Bristol? ... only saying because other clubs seem to be funding transfers fine? If you look at the transfers leading to deadline day there is quite a bit of movement but I guess BG will use this as an excuse just like any other as long as it suits the narrative. Journey, anyone?! Because we did our business early remember? everyone saying it was great to do it early for a change. Eleven signings!! how many were you counting on? |
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Post by GasMacc1 on Oct 6, 2020 13:29:49 GMT
In August, League One looked to me to have ten clubs who had (and, now, have) a realistic chance of promotion. Of the remaining 14, I didn't see any that looked obviously out of their depth or doomed (like Bolton and Bury last season). In other words, I thought (and still think) that there is going to be a terrific scrap amongst the 14 to avoid finishing in the bottom four. Like it or not, it is a fact that, in League One, only Rovers had to face, in all three of the opening matches, clubs that I would class in the top 10. (Trust me, I have a spreadsheet!). Oh - I do like a spreadsheet. Would you agree with the bookies? Currently the one I 'rely' on have (in order of likelihood for relegation): Dale, The Gas, N'ton, Burton, W'don, MK Dons, Wigan, Plymouth, Crewe, Shrews, Accie, Charlton, Gills, Swindle. Dale 8/11 going out to Swindle at 11/2. The Gas are 2nd favourites for the drop at 6/5. This is a very very tight race for these 14 before you leap to Blackpool at 10-1. I agree - there will be a very close season long battle down at the bottom (I reckon you had Charlton as a top 10 side - swap that for Lincoln and I think your list will reflect the above). UTG. I'd settle for SUTG this season. (S for Stay). Nearly. Your'e right about the Addicks and the Imps, but I also had Wigan in the top 10 and Blackpool in the bottom 14. Now that the season is underway, it's not just Lincoln's current position in the table that makes me think I've misjudged them. I saw their Carabao Cup match on TV against Liverpool's "reserves". Perversely, despite conceding 7 goals, Lincoln looked to have a good shape and did the right things. Also, even at 5-0 down, they kept working and battling to the end, and managed to get a couple of goals. Liverpool were just far too good. I also watched Wigan at Ipswich. Having seen us struggle in the opening Carabao Cup match, I thought Wigan seemed to pose the home team more of a threat, even though they ended up being beaten 2-0. The popular view on Wigan, I suppose, is that their recent financial crisis will make them struggle in League 1 this season, but they didn't look too bad at Portman Road. P.S. Worryingly, Burton also looked competent and well-organised in their defeat against a Villa side packed with Premier League starters!  |
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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 6, 2020 14:01:12 GMT
nope, you are all wrong...
we will stutter along until Christmas, being lower-middle of the table, after which our young lads will gel into a cohesive unit playing delicious football. Hardon and Ayunga will be revealed as the best off the Rovers production line since the Duke/Lambert/Bazza (delete as appropriate)
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Post by kingswood Polak on Oct 6, 2020 15:05:18 GMT
Or because Wael was in talks with Garner while Coughlan was manager. It doesn’t feel nice when you have your boss interviewing someone else for your job, I had it happen to me but I weathered it out. You obviously have factual evidence of your accusation? No but it is a fact the Ben was at several games prior to GC’s departure. You want to see it as an accusation is your prerogative but I think it would make any manager uneasy, at best. Do you think he came to watch because he has been a Gashead for years then ? |
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Post by Delsy on Oct 6, 2020 15:12:28 GMT
I remember Bullard saying that to Ferguson once ! |
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Post by eppinggas on Oct 6, 2020 15:59:03 GMT
we will stutter along until Christmas, being lower-middle of the table. (delete as appropriate) I have deleted as appropriate. |
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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 6, 2020 16:20:21 GMT
we will stutter along until Christmas, being lower-middle of the table. (delete as appropriate) I have deleted as appropriate. yup, fair enough, I can't complain  |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 6, 2020 18:17:46 GMT
Is this so say pandemic just going on in North Bristol? ... only saying because other clubs seem to be funding transfers fine? If you look at the transfers leading to deadline day there is quite a bit of movement but I guess BG will use this as an excuse just like any other as long as it suits the narrative. Journey, anyone?! Because we did our business early remember? everyone saying it was great to do it early for a change. Eleven signings!! how many were you counting on? Well I make it like this: Jack Baldwin Free transfer Josh Grant Free transfer Max Ehmer Free transfer Sam Nicholson Free transfer Pablo Martinez Free transfer David Tutonda Free transfer Jonah Ayunga ? Undisclosed Fee. Zain Westbrooke ? Undisclosed Fee. Jayden Mitchell-Lawson Loan Luke McCormick Loan Brandon Hanlan ? Fee set by Tribunal. 6 free transfers. 2 loans. 2 undisclosed fees. 1 due to be set by tribunal. + We've offloaded high earners, and BG refuses to utilise the services of Bennett and Ogogo. Hardly breaking the bank as your post implied. But as you ask, a recognised striker in this division at least, please... And, I have serious reservations about genuine, orthodox right back cover. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 6, 2020 18:48:39 GMT
Back on track with topic and to look back on in archive:
Northampton Town to get relegated 6/4.
Bristol Rovers to get relegated 6/4.
*Bet365 on 06-10-20 19:45pm.
We're both 25/1 to get promoted.
This win ain't fooling anyone.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2020 21:40:44 GMT
I think wael and garner are backing youth which is fantastic and i believe ordinary rovers fans will be won over in the long run.
Wael has dug deep into his pockets despite this terrible disaster for lower league clubs and i will always stand up for wael because he has stood up for bristol rovers.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2020 21:43:38 GMT
Because we did our business early remember? everyone saying it was great to do it early for a change. Eleven signings!! how many were you counting on? Well I make it like this: Jack Baldwin Free transfer Josh Grant Free transfer Max Ehmer Free transfer Sam Nicholson Free transfer Pablo Martinez Free transfer David Tutonda Free transfer Jonah Ayunga ? Undisclosed Fee. Zain Westbrooke ? Undisclosed Fee. Jayden Mitchell-Lawson Loan Luke McCormick Loan Brandon Hanlan ? Fee set by Tribunal. 6 free transfers. 2 loans. 2 undisclosed fees. 1 due to be set by tribunal. + We've offloaded high earners, and BG refuses to utilise the services of Bennett and Ogogo. Hardly breaking the bank as your post implied. But as you ask, a recognised striker in this division at least, please... And, I have serious reservations about genuine, orthodox right back cover. Your post shows the staggering commitment wael has made in backing ben garner and its comical than you and your cronies who like the post agree with your verdict that we have not spent money. If a football was to land in your back garden you wouldnt even know what the f*** it was. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2020 22:13:38 GMT
There you have it.
An admission that someone will always defend a certain person, regardless.
Personally I like to assess each situation on its merit.
So riddle me this Blue Oyster Bloke, if Wael has got us into a position where we were haemorrhaging £3m per-year even with gate and match day receipts, his day job is making less than it previously did and he's looks to be burning through his inheritance like there's no tomorrow, what happens when he goes to the cash point to check his bank balance and finds that he's spent everything?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2020 22:24:56 GMT
Back on track with topic and to look back on in archive: Northampton Town to get relegated 6/4. Bristol Rovers to get relegated 6/4. *Bet365 on 06-10-20 19:45pm. We're both 25/1 to get promoted. This win ain't fooling anyone. Pretty damning considering Northampton were favourites to go down anyway. If that’s the case we’ve managed to win our easiest game of the season? Great, let’s get the party hats and bunting out and start up the promotion bus. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2020 22:29:15 GMT
There you have it. An admission that someone will always defend a certain person, regardless. Personally I like to assess each situation on its merit. So riddle me this Blue Oyster Bloke, if Wael has got us into a position where we were haemorrhaging £3m per-year even with gate and match day receipts, his day job is making less than it previously did and he's looks to be burning through his inheritance like there's no tomorrow, what happens when he goes to the cash point to check his bank balance and finds that he's spent everything? Sorry but your looking for an argument yet again. Go and play your mind games elsewhere little man. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2020 22:31:55 GMT
Well I make it like this: Jack Baldwin Free transfer Josh Grant Free transfer Max Ehmer Free transfer Sam Nicholson Free transfer Pablo Martinez Free transfer David Tutonda Free transfer Jonah Ayunga ? Undisclosed Fee. Zain Westbrooke ? Undisclosed Fee. Jayden Mitchell-Lawson Loan Luke McCormick Loan Brandon Hanlan ? Fee set by Tribunal. 6 free transfers. 2 loans. 2 undisclosed fees. 1 due to be set by tribunal. + We've offloaded high earners, and BG refuses to utilise the services of Bennett and Ogogo. Hardly breaking the bank as your post implied. But as you ask, a recognised striker in this division at least, please... And, I have serious reservations about genuine, orthodox right back cover. Your post shows the staggering commitment wael has made in backing ben garner and its comical than you and your cronies who like the post agree with your verdict that we have not spent money. If a football was to land in your back garden you wouldnt even know what the f*** it was. Have you got access to the balance sheet? Unless you have I have no idea how you can claim that is a “staggering commitment” when most are free transfers and Garner has shipped out a pretty large number of the players who featured under Coughlan no doubt creating a lot of room in the budget to bring these players in. It’s the standard churn of a new manager who wants to bring his own players in and it looks like it’s been done with judicious use of the loan market and free transfers. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2020 22:38:48 GMT
There you have it. An admission that someone will always defend a certain person, regardless. Personally I like to assess each situation on its merit. So riddle me this Blue Oyster Bloke, if Wael has got us into a position where we were haemorrhaging £3m per-year even with gate and match day receipts, his day job is making less than it previously did and he's looks to be burning through his inheritance like there's no tomorrow, what happens when he goes to the cash point to check his bank balance and finds that he's spent everything? Sorry but your looking for an argument yet again. Go and play your mind games elsewhere little man. Come on, that's exactly what I said to you just 2 days ago. The only difference is that I didn't insult you. And I'm not trying to start an argument, all I'm doing is trying to understand why you are backing what looks to me to be a house of cards. So, to the points; You'll defend Wael regardless, OK, if you like. Now I can't see what's wrong with asking someone who backs the owner what happens when the money runs out? Here's the reason for asking the question; despite removing and replacing just about everybody who worked for the club and 'modernising' our commercial activities, our annual losses have gone from ITRO £1m PA to over £3m PA. I'm worried that this isn't sustainable. What do you think? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2020 22:50:02 GMT
Must admit its a bit of a strain being the only positive or i would say balanced opinion poster against the rest of the forum which equals 10 ultra negative posters and it is getting tiresome and pointless.
I think you 10 should get the forum you richly deserve and have fought hard for.
Good luck with it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2020 22:58:41 GMT
When we start winning some games the mood will pick up.
But everybody thinks that their opinion is the balanced one don't they?
Remember Vertigo, I argued with Swiss for a long time when he was raising questions about Wael's leadership, it's just that eventually the evidence he kept putting forward became compelling.
Happy to read everything you have to say in defence of how we are being run, and for what it's worth, I agree, the training ground, if it's better than the present facilities and reduces costs / helps attract better players is a good thing, also, I'm all for bringing on our own talent and managing to get more than the 30 seconds playing time out of them than we managed with Scott Sinclair, so there are things that I think we agree on.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2020 23:57:31 GMT
When we start winning some games the mood will pick up. But everybody thinks that their opinion is the balanced one don't they? Remember Vertigo, I argued with Swiss for a long time when he was raising questions about Wael's leadership, it's just that eventually the evidence he kept putting forward became compelling. Happy to read everything you have to say in defence of how we are being run, and for what it's worth, I agree, the training ground, if it's better than the present facilities and reduces costs / helps attract better players is a good thing, also, I'm all for bringing on our own talent and managing to get more than the 30 seconds playing time out of them than we managed with Scott Sinclair, so there are things that I think we agree on. If you have the hubris to claim your opinion is balanced, then that’s a glaring red flag that it’s not. And as you say- the mood will change if results change. It’s going to take more than one win in 7 games to believe we have turned a corner. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2020 0:47:20 GMT
When we start winning some games the mood will pick up. But everybody thinks that their opinion is the balanced one don't they? Remember Vertigo, I argued with Swiss for a long time when he was raising questions about Wael's leadership, it's just that eventually the evidence he kept putting forward became compelling. Happy to read everything you have to say in defence of how we are being run, and for what it's worth, I agree, the training ground, if it's better than the present facilities and reduces costs / helps attract better players is a good thing, also, I'm all for bringing on our own talent and managing to get more than the 30 seconds playing time out of them than we managed with Scott Sinclair, so there are things that I think we agree on. If you have the hubris to claim your opinion is balanced, then that’s a glaring red flag that it’s not. And as you say- the mood will change if results change. It’s going to take more than one win in 7 games to believe we have turned a corner. Anything is balanced compared to the only people that post on here regularly these days. You all just take it in turns to say the most negative thing about the owner and the manager and back each other regardless of anything. I mean somebody even said "penalties and red cards do not count" if you win with them happening!! Even if you played in under 10 football you would know they really do count. |
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