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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2021 10:09:30 GMT
I'd have to disagree with that Bath. I've lived in London for 35 years, up until February pretty permanently wearing the blue & white quarters (out of work hours). I can't remember any trouble or negativity aimed at me. It's always been along the lines of "we don't like that other lot in Bristol, but Rovers always come across as a decent Club, make a lot of noise away from home". We were generally well known and well liked. Since February that's changed. Every conversation is about Barton and what possessed us to appoint him as manager. I'm not saying anyone now "hates" us. But the perception has changed. It's all about Barton and his criminal history and the two upcoming Court cases for violence. The conversation isn't about football, or Gasheads, it's about Barton. He is a stain on our Club. I would say the reputational damage caused by his appointment and his subsequent behaviour has been significant. Once we are rid of the scouse gobs***e, I hope people can quickly forget the "Barton era" and move on. I have no idea how long it will take for that awful smell to go away. Just for the record (yeah, needle stuck) I'm not a fan. I agree, JB being here does make us a current topic of conversation in the wider world - and not for positive reasons. What I was trying to say, in response to TWD, is that we will not end up like Millwall, being fairly universally disliked, due to JB being in the dugout for a short period of time. We will no longer be a topic of interest once he has gone. It's like someone of good character suddenly making headlines for all the wrong reasons, you don't forget entirely that they were previously of good character, but you'll never look at them in quite the same way again. Congratulations Wael. It truly was an idiotic appointment, and I have no words for not suspending him when the second charge was made against him. You owe us all an apology for what you've done to our club. Shame on you. |
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Oct 31, 2021 10:16:25 GMT
Is this the start of a football novel your writing CPB?š It was an away game. If we'd have replaced our injured striker with a central defender early on at home we'd have lost as usual.
The rain fell steadily from the leaden Yorkshire skies, as the travelling supporters urged their team on, to what had once seemed like an improbable victory....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2021 10:39:28 GMT
Bas, I admire the way you stick to your ideas about JB and you do it with good grace. Youād be a good man to have alongside when it gets tough so good for you. š But even if we separate the court stuff from the football stuff heās on borrowed time on the football stuff alone. It was a good win today, perhaps one of the best of his time and youāre right, we are putting a few results together. But weāve had some horrors this season and a good result at Harrogate doesnāt change all of that. Iām glad we put in a good performance but that doesnāt excuse the woeful tactics and poor substitutions already this season. The other stuff, well, Iām not sure WAQ worries about it, or even if the club are aware of it (thatās a joke Iām sure they are but after last week....) There has been reputational damage as others have said but nothing I say will change anything and weāll just have to let the justice system do their stuff. I donāt worry what fans on other forums think, theyāre hardly an accurate measure of what people think JB has always divided opinion and I wouldnāt expect other clubsā fans to say anything good about him or about us whilst he manages us. They havenāt before, they wonāt now. But after today, well done to the team and JB for a well deserved win. A much needed 3 points for BRFC. String a run of 3 or 4 more just like that and weāll be looking at the top rather than the bottom. And then you may get your way but I remember what WAQ said when this second court case was announced, guilty and heāll be gone. UTG! The silence from the board this week has been uncanny. Something just isnāt adding up. The only way I can explain it, is Wael in talks to sell up, possibly to a group closer to where he lives than to the mem? At first I thought the silence was because things were happening behind the scenes Now, after Bartons presser I'm convinced Barton is running the club. Wael is smitten and daren't speak against his man and the rest of the board are frightened to speak for fear of being axed. Welcome to the era of Bartons Bristol Rovers, an era which I cannot support. |
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Post by rowdenhill on Oct 31, 2021 11:05:16 GMT
Joey Barton is Glubb Pasha Alwaqt Alhadir.
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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 31, 2021 11:06:10 GMT
At first I thought the silence was because things were happening behind the scenes Now, after Bartons presser I'm convinced Barton is running the club. Wael is smitten and daren't speak against his man and the rest of the board are frightened to speak for fear of being axed. Welcome to the era Bartons Bristol Rovers, an era which I cannot support. yes, #metoo to all of that the only clue was 'good signs are happening on the field, as well as off the field' though. It's hardly conclusive, and it has been said from the start that Team Jbag came on condition of control - which had the appearance of solving Wael's previous issue of a fragmented management team during the Hamer and Tis eras any clues as to what 'off the field' referred to - it could be just the new SC arrangements, or (probably more likely) just a random eddy in the stream of sub-consciousness that we witness? |
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Post by baselswh on Oct 31, 2021 11:16:01 GMT
I hope PHE is right in his prophecy that Joe is in charge and we are in the early-ish days of 'Joe Barton's Bristol Rovers'.
I'm a fan of having a 'Big Boss' in some cases.It should mean all sing from the same sheet and that is absolutely imperative.
I see our slow and gradual improvement carrying on.Challenging for the 2nd tier within 2 or 3 years is within our capabilities.
It's a new approach and well worth having ago with it.
I welcome the Joe Barton era.
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Post by The Concept on Oct 31, 2021 11:23:57 GMT
Yes, people don't like JB - however, that is him, not Rovers. When he moves on, people won't be saying "I hate Bristol Rovers, they had that Joey Barton as their manager 5 years ago" - hence it cannot be compared to the dislike which people have for Millwall fans, which tends to be permanent. We may not like to admit it, but we're a bit of a non-entity as far as fans of other clubs go. I'd have to disagree with that Bath. I've lived in London for 35 years, up until February pretty permanently wearing the blue & white quarters (out of work hours). I can't remember any trouble or negativity aimed at me. It's always been along the lines of "we don't like that other lot in Bristol, but Rovers always come across as a decent Club, make a lot of noise away from home". We were generally well known and well liked. Since February that's changed. Every conversation is about Barton and what possessed us to appoint him as manager. I'm not saying anyone now "hates" us. But the perception has changed. It's all about Barton and his criminal history and the two upcoming Court cases for violence. The conversation isn't about football, or Gasheads, it's about Barton. He is a stain on our Club. I would say the reputational damage caused by his appointment and his subsequent behaviour has been significant. Once we are rid of the scouse gobs***e, I hope people can quickly forget the "Barton era" and move on. I have no idea how long it will take for that awful smell to go away. Just for the record (yeah, needle stuck) I'm not a fan. Yes to this. Couldn't agree more. My sister has absolutely no interest in football and lives miles away in Leighton Buzzard. The first time she visited, a couple of weeks after the most recent charges, the first thing she said on arrival was: "How come Joey Barton hasn't been suspended??" I asked how she even knew about it and she said she'd read it in the papers, and football fans at work talk about such things. She then went on to compare Barton's situation with the allegations against the actor Noel Clarke, who was immediately suspended by BAFTA, and Sky cancelled further series of the show he was in - unlike JB he hasn't even been charged with anything yet. Then we have Prince Andrew, who was effectively removed from public duty as soon as the allegations surfaced. In my line of work I'm regularly speaking to people around the country. The day after we heard the latest charges about JB I was on the phone to a Norwich fan in Lincolnshire, and as per natural conversations he asked how I was. "Well, not brilliant after hearing the latest allegation about our football manager ...". "Oh yes, of course, you're a Bristol Rovers fan - not good about Joey Barton." I asked how he knew about it and he said it was one of the first things that popped up on his newsfeed. And this sort of thing goes on, as soon as anyone knows I'm a Rovers fan the conversation turns to our manager rather than how the team is getting on. |
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Post by The Concept on Oct 31, 2021 11:31:03 GMT
At first I thought the silence was because things were happening behind the scenes Now, after Bartons presser I'm convinced Barton is running the club. Wael is smitten and daren't speak against his man and the rest of the board are frightened to speak for fear of being axed. Welcome to the era Bartons Bristol Rovers, an era which I cannot support. yes, #metoo to all of that the only clue was 'good signs are happening on the field, as well as off the field' though. It's hardly conclusive, and it has been said from the start that Team Jbag came on condition of control - which had the appearance of solving Wael's previous issue of a fragmented management team during the Hamer and Tis eras any clues as to what 'off the field' referred to - it could be just the new SC arrangements, or (probably more likely) just a random eddy in the stream of sub-consciousness that we witness? This has revived the 506 page 'Fruit Market...' thread on the Gas Chat forum. My guess is that it is to do with The Quarters, as the plans for the next phase of the training ground were approved by the council on Thursday. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2021 11:42:29 GMT
I hope PHE is right in his prophecy that Joe is in charge and we are in the early-ish days of 'Joe Barton's Bristol Rovers'. I'm a fan of having a 'Big Boss' in some cases.It should mean all sing from the same sheet and that is absolutely imperative. I see our slow and gradual improvement carrying on.Challenging for the 2nd tier within 2 or 3 years is within our capabilities. It's a new approach and well worth having ago with it. I welcome the Joe Barton era. For goodness sake Bas get a grip. 1. Imagine for just 1 moment it was your sister, mother, wife that was the complainant in the latest court case. 2. He cost Fleetwood's owner Ā£6,000,000 in a single season, and still achieved nothing other than getting destroyed by FGR in the play offs. We got battered last week by Newport County, and have just managed a scrappy 1-0 win at Harrogate, check the fixtures, it was Harrogate, not Liverpool or Man City, we've just scrapped past a pub team. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2021 11:51:55 GMT
I'd have to disagree with that Bath. I've lived in London for 35 years, up until February pretty permanently wearing the blue & white quarters (out of work hours). I can't remember any trouble or negativity aimed at me. It's always been along the lines of "we don't like that other lot in Bristol, but Rovers always come across as a decent Club, make a lot of noise away from home". We were generally well known and well liked. Since February that's changed. Every conversation is about Barton and what possessed us to appoint him as manager. I'm not saying anyone now "hates" us. But the perception has changed. It's all about Barton and his criminal history and the two upcoming Court cases for violence. The conversation isn't about football, or Gasheads, it's about Barton. He is a stain on our Club. I would say the reputational damage caused by his appointment and his subsequent behaviour has been significant. Once we are rid of the scouse gobs***e, I hope people can quickly forget the "Barton era" and move on. I have no idea how long it will take for that awful smell to go away. Just for the record (yeah, needle stuck) I'm not a fan. Yes to this. Couldn't agree more. My sister has absolutely no interest in football and lives miles away in Leighton Buzzard. The first time she visited, a couple of weeks after the most recent charges, the first thing she said on arrival was: "How come Joey Barton hasn't been suspended??" I asked how she even knew about it and she said she'd read it in the papers, and football fans at work talk about such things. She then went on to compare Barton's situation with the allegations against the actor Noel Clarke, who was immediately suspended by BAFTA, and Sky cancelled further series of the show he was in - unlike JB he hasn't even been charged with anything yet. Then we have Prince Andrew, who was effectively removed from public duty as soon as the allegations surfaced. In my line of work I'm regularly speaking to people around the country. The day after we heard the latest charges about JB I was on the phone to a Norwich fan in Lincolnshire, and as per natural conversations he asked how I was. "Well, not brilliant after hearing the latest allegation about our football manager ...". "Oh yes, of course, you're a Bristol Rovers fan - not good about Joey Barton." I asked how he knew about it and he said it was one of the first things that popped up on his newsfeed. And this sort of thing goes on, as soon as anyone knows I'm a Rovers fan the conversation turns to our manager rather than how the team is getting on. Well said. I honestly don't know why some people are in 'ostrich mode' about this. Barton has done huge harm to the reputation of a club that most other supporters around the country had a bit of a soft spot for. And we've been brought to the attention of a much wider audience as well, and not in a good way. But the thing is, everybody knows who and what Barton is and that he shouldn't be touched with a barge pole, the responsibility for all of this sits squarely with Wael. |
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 31, 2021 12:16:04 GMT
I hope PHE is right in his prophecy that Joe is in charge and we are in the early-ish days of 'Joe Barton's Bristol Rovers'. I'm a fan of having a 'Big Boss' in some cases.It should mean all sing from the same sheet and that is absolutely imperative. I see our slow and gradual improvement carrying on.Challenging for the 2nd tier within 2 or 3 years is within our capabilities. It's a new approach and well worth having ago with it. I welcome the Joe Barton era. Yes, Iām a fan of āhaving a Big Boss in some casesā as well. But JB isnāt one of those cases. And bas, I think youāre being a bit of a tinker now to āwelcome the Joe Bartonā era! š UTG! |
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Post by laughinggas on Oct 31, 2021 12:34:49 GMT
I hope PHE is right in his prophecy that Joe is in charge and we are in the early-ish days of 'Joe Barton's Bristol Rovers'. I'm a fan of having a 'Big Boss' in some cases.It should mean all sing from the same sheet and that is absolutely imperative. I see our slow and gradual improvement carrying on.Challenging for the 2nd tier within 2 or 3 years is within our capabilities. It's a new approach and well worth having ago with it. I welcome the Joe Barton era. For goodness sake Bas get a grip. 1. Imagine for just 1 moment it was your sister, mother, wife that was the complainant in the latest court case. 2. He cost Fleetwood's owner Ā£6,000,000 in a single season, and still achieved nothing other than getting destroyed by FGR in the play offs. We got battered last week by Newport County, and have just managed a scrappy 1-0 win at Harrogate, check the fixtures, it was Harrogate, not Liverpool or Man City, we've just scrapped past a pub team. How did he cost them 6 mill? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2021 12:51:18 GMT
For goodness sake Bas get a grip. 1. Imagine for just 1 moment it was your sister, mother, wife that was the complainant in the latest court case. 2. He cost Fleetwood's owner Ā£6,000,000 in a single season, and still achieved nothing other than getting destroyed by FGR in the play offs. We got battered last week by Newport County, and have just managed a scrappy 1-0 win at Harrogate, check the fixtures, it was Harrogate, not Liverpool or Man City, we've just scrapped past a pub team. How did he cost them 6 mill? Those were the losses in the last lot of accounts I've seen published for Fleetwood and represent a full trading period whilst he was there. If he's making comments such as him deciding it was best not to make a statement about his holocaust comment last week but to address the issue in his press conference towards the end of the week, that raises very real concerns about how much control he has here. At least it does for me. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2021 15:16:00 GMT
For goodness sake Bas get a grip. 1. Imagine for just 1 moment it was your sister, mother, wife that was the complainant in the latest court case. 2. He cost Fleetwood's owner Ā£6,000,000 in a single season, and still achieved nothing other than getting destroyed by FGR in the play offs. We got battered last week by Newport County, and have just managed a scrappy 1-0 win at Harrogate, check the fixtures, it was Harrogate, not Liverpool or Man City, we've just scrapped past a pub team. How did he cost them 6 mill? Taken from the Fleetwood Gazette: Fleetwood Townās latest financial accounts show the club posted losses of almost Ā£6m during the 2018/19 season. The accounts cover the 2018/19 campaign, when Fleetwood finished 11th in Joey Bartonās first season as manager. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Oct 31, 2021 15:59:50 GMT
The silence from the board this week has been uncanny. Something just isnāt adding up. The only way I can explain it, is Wael in talks to sell up, possibly to a group closer to where he lives than to the mem? At first I thought the silence was because things were happening behind the scenes Now, after Bartons presser I'm convinced Barton is running the club. Wael is smitten and daren't speak against his man and the rest of the board are frightened to speak for fear of being axed. Welcome to the era of Bartons Bristol Rovers, an era which I cannot support. Nor i |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Oct 31, 2021 16:08:29 GMT
How did he cost them 6 mill? Those were the losses in the last lot of accounts I've seen published for Fleetwood and represent a full trading period whilst he was there. If he's making comments such as him deciding it was best not to make a statement about his holocaust comment last week but to address the issue in his press conference towards the end of the week, that raises very real concerns about how much control he has here. At least it does for me. When @swissgass first gave his idea that Barton could have bought his way in, I thought it was wide of the mar, now and with the unwillingness to do any pressers or medias, i truly believe Barton, plus a couple of other mate, have bought in, in fact i am sure of it. Time will tell |
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Post by oldie on Oct 31, 2021 16:15:04 GMT
At first I thought the silence was because things were happening behind the scenes Now, after Bartons presser I'm convinced Barton is running the club. Wael is smitten and daren't speak against his man and the rest of the board are frightened to speak for fear of being axed. Welcome to the era of Bartons Bristol Rovers, an era which I cannot support. Nor iĀ Nor I |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2021 16:16:32 GMT
Nor I, as I have oft repeated. So sad.
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Post by lostinspace on Oct 31, 2021 17:10:39 GMT
if that is the case, then that will be the end of the road for me, no way could i give any form of support,monetary or vocal to this kind of of person, ...sincerely hope this is just speculation #Bartonout
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Post by Bath Gas on Oct 31, 2021 17:13:08 GMT
I'd have to disagree with that Bath. I've lived in London for 35 years, up until February pretty permanently wearing the blue & white quarters (out of work hours). I can't remember any trouble or negativity aimed at me. It's always been along the lines of "we don't like that other lot in Bristol, but Rovers always come across as a decent Club, make a lot of noise away from home". We were generally well known and well liked. Since February that's changed. Every conversation is about Barton and what possessed us to appoint him as manager. I'm not saying anyone now "hates" us. But the perception has changed. It's all about Barton and his criminal history and the two upcoming Court cases for violence. The conversation isn't about football, or Gasheads, it's about Barton. He is a stain on our Club. I would say the reputational damage caused by his appointment and his subsequent behaviour has been significant. Once we are rid of the scouse gobs***e, I hope people can quickly forget the "Barton era" and move on. I have no idea how long it will take for that awful smell to go away. Just for the record (yeah, needle stuck) I'm not a fan. Yes to this. Couldn't agree more. My sister has absolutely no interest in football and lives miles away in Leighton Buzzard. The first time she visited, a couple of weeks after the most recent charges, the first thing she said on arrival was: "How come Joey Barton hasn't been suspended??" I asked how she even knew about it and she said she'd read it in the papers, and football fans at work talk about such things. She then went on to compare Barton's situation with the allegations against the actor Noel Clarke, who was immediately suspended by BAFTA, and Sky cancelled further series of the show he was in - unlike JB he hasn't even been charged with anything yet. Then we have Prince Andrew, who was effectively removed from public duty as soon as the allegations surfaced. In my line of work I'm regularly speaking to people around the country. The day after we heard the latest charges about JB I was on the phone to a Norwich fan in Lincolnshire, and as per natural conversations he asked how I was. "Well, not brilliant after hearing the latest allegation about our football manager ...". "Oh yes, of course, you're a Bristol Rovers fan - not good about Joey Barton." I asked how he knew about it and he said it was one of the first things that popped up on his newsfeed. And this sort of thing goes on, as soon as anyone knows I'm a Rovers fan the conversation turns to our manager rather than how the team is getting on. In 6 months time these people won't even know who our manager is, let alone expend any energy on hating us. We are not going to be the new Millwall. My sister (who has no interest in any sport) also knows about Joey Barton, because she automatically zones in when Rovers are mentioned in the media, due to the club being a big thing in my life. She often even knows if we've won or lost, much to my amazement. I'm the same with golf, never knew anything until my son became interested, then the media coverage started to grab my attention. You could say that it's all relative! |
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