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Post by simonj on Oct 21, 2020 7:05:01 GMT
Result = excellent Performance = iffy Good goal (with goalkeeper throwing haymaker, brave too) Great goaline clearance. After Ipswich and Doncaster wondered if this side could get cleanie, now two. Concerned what side will be like without Hanlan in it. Matches coming thick and fast now. Stern tests too, Fleetwood and Posh, like Ipswich and Doncaster are experienced, streetwise, and expecting to finish top, so it’s good we have at least scrapped 4 points from the last two fixtures even though we have played poorly. I don't think that was a poor performance last night. Shrews had some decent pressure at points in the game, but they are at home and have Clarke up front, who is a v good player. The last 20 mins we were in control, sure they had a good chance, but we had more. The fitness, commitment and desire to carry on playing was far from poor. |
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Post by Rex on Oct 21, 2020 7:25:01 GMT
I have just had a read of a few of the comments on the Donnie match thread, including my own. Spend the time, it's worth it.
I am over the moon with this result and performance. We made Shrewsbury look rubbish by the end. They had no clue how to do anything by injury time. Anssi was excellent, glad to see Ehmer get some credit at last. Baldwin and Harries are quality. Tutonda had a good game. The midfield 3 work well, but I feel McCormick may miss out to Oztumer eventually who was far more creative. Hanlan and Daly were both great. Hare subdued first half, excellent going forward 2nd half. This was just brilliant. Is it our best start since coming back to L1? Can't believe some of the fouls we didn't get 2nd half. Well done Ben, it's ALL down to you.
Saturday now becomes a great opportunity to keeo the momentum especially as we have Hull at home next Tuesday. Brave Hanlan for the goal. We have done well in 4 games, before that was pretty horrific. I think to be fair to any manager you would have to judge him over a season. After the Doncaster game I did think he should go, that was based on his appalling record which he tried pinning on referees (which REALLY annoys me). I'm really pleased with the points haul form the last few games , if Garner can get us to were Coughlan left us by the end of the season I will be impressed. |
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Post by toteend3 on Oct 21, 2020 7:33:09 GMT
I have just had a read of a few of the comments on the Donnie match thread, including my own. Spend the time, it's worth it. I am over the moon with this result and performance. We made Shrewsbury look rubbish by the end. They had no clue how to do anything by injury time. Anssi was excellent, glad to see Ehmer get some credit at last. Baldwin and Harries are quality. Tutonda had a good game. The midfield 3 work well, but I feel McCormick may miss out to Oztumer eventually who was far more creative. Hanlan and Daly were both great. Hare subdued first half, excellent going forward 2nd half. This was just brilliant. Is it our best start since coming back to L1? Can't believe some of the fouls we didn't get 2nd half. Well done Ben, it's ALL down to you. Saturday now becomes a great opportunity to keeo the momentum especially as we have Hull at home next Tuesday. Brave Hanlan for the goal. Ben who's Ben. - is that the useless manager who's only won two games out of a million matches last season. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2020 7:35:30 GMT
We have done well in 4 games, before that was pretty horrific. We ought remember this, rather than flip from detesting to adoring too quickly. I think to be fair to any manager you would have to judge him over a season. I keep saying this. The worst managers should last a year, the best for as many years as we can retain them, or for as long as they stay good. It's not just to judge managers after less than half a season in post. After the Doncaster game I did think he should go, that was based on his appalling record which he tried pinning on referees (which REALLY annoys me). He needs to stop this whining... |
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Post by mangogas15 on Oct 21, 2020 8:08:08 GMT
I have just had a read of a few of the comments on the Donnie match thread, including my own. Spend the time, it's worth it. I am over the moon with this result and performance. We made Shrewsbury look rubbish by the end. They had no clue how to do anything by injury time. Anssi was excellent, glad to see Ehmer get some credit at last. Baldwin and Harries are quality. Tutonda had a good game. The midfield 3 work well, but I feel McCormick may miss out to Oztumer eventually who was far more creative. Hanlan and Daly were both great. Hare subdued first half, excellent going forward 2nd half. This was just brilliant. Is it our best start since coming back to L1? Can't believe some of the fouls we didn't get 2nd half. Well done Ben, it's ALL down to you. Saturday now becomes a great opportunity to keeo the momentum especially as we have Hull at home next Tuesday. Brave Hanlan for the goal. Ben who's Ben. - is that the useless manager who's only won two games out of a million matches last season. It was said rather with tongue in cheek as he is blamed for everything rightly when going bad, i feel has exceeded my expectations rather than hopes in the last 4 games especially last night and Lincoln. |
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Post by mangogas15 on Oct 21, 2020 8:08:52 GMT
We have done well in 4 games, before that was pretty horrific. We ought remember this, rather than flip from detesting to adoring too quickly. I think to be fair to any manager you would have to judge him over a season. I keep saying this. The worst managers should last a year, the best for as many years as we can retain them, or for as long as they stay good. It's not just to judge managers after less than half a season in post. After the Doncaster game I did think he should go, that was based on his appalling record which he tried pinning on referees (which REALLY annoys me). He needs to stop this whining if he wants any further respect from me. He told me he does want it... |
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Post by mangogas15 on Oct 21, 2020 8:10:44 GMT
We have done well in 4 games, before that was pretty horrific. We ought remember this, rather than flip from detesting to adoring too quickly. I think to be fair to any manager you would have to judge him over a season. I keep saying this. The worst managers should last a year, the best for as many years as we can retain them, or for as long as they stay good. It's not just to judge managers after less than half a season in post. After the Doncaster game I did think he should go, that was based on his appalling record which he tried pinning on referees (which REALLY annoys me). He needs to stop this whining if he wants any further respect from me. I will be happy if we beat the rubbish teams and lose to the top teams but i am hoping for a bit more. This team won't go down. |
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Post by mangogas15 on Oct 21, 2020 8:27:19 GMT
It is strange watching Rovers matches and not hearing Irene being sung.
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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 21, 2020 10:42:17 GMT
We're 10th with a young footballing team that is going to get better :-)
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Post by simonj on Oct 21, 2020 10:59:15 GMT
We're 10th with a young footballing team that is going to get better :-) Fingers crossed you are right Piratey. There is some talent in there gain some experience and good things may not be that distant an horizon.
We are still playing quite narrow, which demonstrates a lack of playing experience and confidence, but we do have some decent wide players to come in as we expand our game. It could be exciting.
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Post by laughinggas on Oct 21, 2020 11:15:12 GMT
We're 10th with a young footballing team that is going to get better :-) Fingers crossed you are right Piratey. There is some talent in there gain some experience and good things may not be that distant an horizon.
We are still playing quite narrow, which demonstrates a lack of playing experience and confidence, but we do have some decent wide players to come in as we expand our game. It could be exciting.
Last nights pitch looked very narrow, was hard to play with any width. |
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Post by simonj on Oct 21, 2020 11:41:47 GMT
Fingers crossed you are right Piratey. There is some talent in there gain some experience and good things may not be that distant an horizon.
We are still playing quite narrow, which demonstrates a lack of playing experience and confidence, but we do have some decent wide players to come in as we expand our game. It could be exciting.
Last nights pitch looked very narrow, was hard to play with any width. I was trying to see if I could see previous lines, the pitch was really narrow. It like it could comfortably 6 or 7 feet wider each side - at least. Yes not much room for a bi-line winger. |
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 21, 2020 12:04:33 GMT
They had no width last night, Whally, the player that usually provides it is out injured and with Hare and Tutonda being a big threat I’d wondered if Shrewsbury decided to narrow the pitch to cut out our wing back threats. Last night I didn’t see Hare put in a single dangerous cross but both him and Tutonda did well defensively. I suppose it was good to get a win without using two of our big threats.
UTG!
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Oct 21, 2020 12:32:10 GMT
Result = excellent Performance = iffy Good goal (with goalkeeper throwing haymaker, brave too) Great goaline clearance. After Ipswich and Doncaster wondered if this side could get cleanie, now two. Concerned what side will be like without Hanlan in it. Matches coming thick and fast now. Stern tests too, Fleetwood and Posh, like Ipswich and Doncaster are experienced, streetwise, and expecting to finish top, so it’s good we have at least scrapped 4 points from the last two fixtures even though we have played poorly. I don't think that was a poor performance last night. Shrews had some decent pressure at points in the game, but they are at home and have Clarke up front, who is a v good player. The last 20 mins we were in control, sure they had a good chance, but we had more. The fitness, commitment and desire to carry on playing was far from poor. we finished strongly. But the performance overall, factoring in first half, was very much poorer than last Saturday, itself a drop off from Lincoln. said at start of season I will look beyond league placing and points because they are ephemeral but performance isn’t. When you get excited about results you also need to consider who you are playing and doing it to. the key sum up from last night is knowing on another night it would have been different, quite easily a 1 or 2 nil defeat. And that means we weren’t in control. Our lack of control is shown us by possession, interception, tackles, and key passes from first half, probably our worst stats and start to a match since Ipswich away in cup. Our lead owed more to our good fortune than fruits of labour. if we can show we are capable, can be consistent, can be adaptable that puts us in a much better place For the season than 10th place and 10 points from 12 thats so easily the fools gold. the last two performances have actualised real concerns. Can you answer them? 1) even at this stage of his time at the club, if Hanlon does a metatarsal in training today, how do we manage his loss to this side? 2) What’s the impact of changing to plan b formation and strategy, using our wingers instead of wingbacks perhaps or 2 centre backs in a 4 3 3 or 4 2 3 1? Because without shadow of doubt you need functioning plan b at some point. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 21, 2020 12:47:39 GMT
It is strange watching Rovers matches and not hearing Irene being sung. Yea, reminds me of pre 1985.. |
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Post by laughinggas on Oct 21, 2020 12:54:33 GMT
We have played
3 5 2
3 4 3
So far. The latter not working yet.
What did we play when Alfie was right back?
The bigger question is can we improve, individually and collectively? If yes then good as we have picked up good points in last 4 games with 3 wins and a draw not being at our best.
Expect a game soon where we play really well and don't get a result, that's football.
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Post by syg on Oct 21, 2020 13:10:56 GMT
We have done well in 4 games, before that was pretty horrific. We ought remember this, rather than flip from detesting to adoring too quickly. I think to be fair to any manager you would have to judge him over a season. I keep saying this. The worst managers should last a year, the best for as many years as we can retain them, or for as long as they stay good. It's not just to judge managers after less than half a season in post. After the Doncaster game I did think he should go, that was based on his appalling record which he tried pinning on referees (which REALLY annoys me). He needs to stop this whining... That post match interview is the worst i can remember, at least what i heard of it, as i turned it off before the end. Even with the improved performances and results my opinion of him isnt great. Hopefully the next time we lose he wont blame the ref. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 21, 2020 14:53:35 GMT
We have played 3 5 2 3 4 3 So far. The latter not working yet. What did we play when Alfie was right back? The bigger question is can we improve, individually and collectively? If yes then good as we have picked up good points in last 4 games with 3 wins and a draw not being at our best. Expect a game soon where we play really well and don't get a result, that's football. Very good point! What did we play, indeed? I think we all know HOW we played!? That's a big loss not allowed to attend, watching formation organisation and how we perform off the ball.. |
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Post by mangogas15 on Oct 21, 2020 15:00:23 GMT
3-5-2
Grant and Westbrooke a little bit deeper than McCormick to crowd the midfield with the wing backs either in midfield defence or attack, making 5-3-2 or 3-3-4. Two upfront gives Hanlan the support and stops the opposition committing too many forward as we have 2 to worry them instead of 1. 3 at the back or 5 or 8 depending on whether we have the ball or not.
I think we had done our homework in Shrewsbury and this was a game they were going to have a lot of possession. Glad Clarke had an off day but he is their best striker at 35, they have problems and we exploited that.
Burton went bottom btw.
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Post by Rex on Oct 21, 2020 18:20:01 GMT
Last nights pitch looked very narrow, was hard to play with any width. I was trying to see if I could see previous lines, the pitch was really narrow. It like it could comfortably 6 or 7 feet wider each side - at least. Yes not much room for a bi-line winger. I'm surprised football pitches haven't had their dimensions standardised . |
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