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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 12:30:39 GMT
In terms of minutes per player, I think that has been an excellently well-planned pre-season.
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Post by gasheadnaboo on Jul 26, 2015 12:37:11 GMT
If we won every pre season game 7 nil it wouldn't be very good preparation for the season now would it? Yesterday our shortcomings couldn't have been more emphasised, Mildenhall is looking very erratic which is concerning and I'd be gobsmacked if a winger or two isn't brought in on loan within the next few weeks.
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Post by crater on Jul 26, 2015 12:47:15 GMT
Same old whinging people p1ssing themselves over a poor pre season performance, as they did for the majority of last season and we all know how that ended up. Some people couldn't see any positive even if they were looking at a battery.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 12:47:25 GMT
Danny Greenslade played 90 minutes at Cribbs on friday night then 90 minutes again the next day at Cheltenham, his body must be hurting today. My only complaint of this pre-season is that we've played to many games with BRFC XI fixtures included, with a small squad. On the subject of new signings, DC said he wanted 4 or 5 new faces, J.Clarke, Lines, Montano & Bodin coming in means DC has kept to his word, plus Lucas & Greenslade seem like they are going to play a more active role in the squad this season. I much prefer the policy of using the budget wisely rather than lump it on a few players and let the kids make up the numbers, it leaves room for anywhere between 4 and 7 new loan players coming in over the course of a 10 month season, not forgetting the January window where we can get players in who have terminated there contracts elsewhere. Good point. I wonder if pre season doesn't need a rethink? Interestingly Bristol rugby are only having one pre season fixture siting that peak performance is the most important thing. How many times have we played a dozen pre season games undefeated and then fallen apart as soon as the season starts? It it would be interesting to get an opinion from you qualified coaches on here?
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jul 26, 2015 13:40:36 GMT
The lack of scoring is worrying, but not surprising, as soon as we play any team on our level or more we struggle. We are still short on quality as Steve K points out DCs comments of players demanding £1500 a week rang alarm bells with me, yet other clubs seemed to sign players without much trouble, and now DC states he is happy with a small squad, all this suggests our young fantastic manager is again working with a budget that has been slashed by the BoD before and especially after the Sainsburys decision went against us. Even though they quoted the playing budget was entirely from different pot. DC will have a tough job this season with the present squad to achieve a top seven finish. Strangely DC was quite happy to sign a player in the Conference on £1,250 a week.
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Post by Peter Parker on Jul 26, 2015 13:43:04 GMT
The lack of scoring is worrying, but not surprising, as soon as we play any team on our level or more we struggle. We are still short on quality as Steve K points out DCs comments of players demanding £1500 a week rang alarm bells with me, yet other clubs seemed to sign players without much trouble, and now DC states he is happy with a small squad, all this suggests our young fantastic manager is again working with a budget that has been slashed by the BoD before and especially after the Sainsburys decision went against us. Even though they quoted the playing budget was entirely from different pot. DC will have a tough job this season with the present squad to achieve a top seven finish. Strangely DC was quite happy to sign a player in the Conference on £1,250 a week. Is it that 1500 quid is too much, or that players that arent worth it want 1500 quid
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 13:45:46 GMT
We met a man from Barrow called Greg who was a Rugby League fan, a couple of Celtic fans in Cheltenham for the afternoon and a bearded man from Norton called Jonny who gave us some of his cherry whiskey. Luke got a discounted pizza and free garlic bread in Dominos for having a Dominos tattoo, I had a curry and many beers and ciders were consumed.
A great pre-season work out by the lads yesterday, we should be back at full drinking levels by Yeovil away. Highlights also included having a screaming match with a two year old and Gos putting a Bliss Stick on the post.
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jul 26, 2015 13:49:05 GMT
Danny Greenslade played 90 minutes at Cribbs on friday night then 90 minutes again the next day at Cheltenham, his body must be hurting today. My only complaint of this pre-season is that we've played to many games with BRFC XI fixtures included, with a small squad. On the subject of new signings, DC said he wanted 4 or 5 new faces, J.Clarke, Lines, Montano & Bodin coming in means DC has kept to his word, plus Lucas & Greenslade seem like they are going to play a more active role in the squad this season. I much prefer the policy of using the budget wisely rather than lump it on a few players and let the kids make up the numbers, it leaves room for anywhere between 4 and 7 new loan players coming in over the course of a 10 month season, not forgetting the January window where we can get players in who have terminated there contracts elsewhere. Good point. I wonder if pre season doesn't need a rethink? Interestingly Bristol rugby are only having one pre season fixture siting that peak performance is the most important thing. How many times have we played a dozen pre season games undefeated and then fallen apart as soon as the season starts? It it would be interesting to get an opinion from you qualified coaches on here? A usual I'll expect that that pre-season friendly will be played in the play-off final.
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jul 26, 2015 13:52:45 GMT
Having not been to any pre-season games, just really can't get excited by them but will be at Phil Kite's game, I'm very confused about all this talk of needing a bit of width. Isn't that what Hannah Montano is supposed to provide? We only ever played with one wide player last year, I'd argue we often played with none when Gosling was playing on the right and continually cutting inside on his left foot. So is Hannah dud?
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Post by LPGas on Jul 26, 2015 13:59:18 GMT
I think we lost all our pre season friendlies, and it was "we'll go down again" on here. Lets look again after 10 league games
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Post by fanatical on Jul 26, 2015 14:17:40 GMT
I know its only a friendly BUT last season we were a laughing stock for being a non league team and today we lose to the team we are replacing. I don't accept this only a friendly when you are playing a local non league side. The worrying thing is that our forwards have failed to score in the last three games and today it sounds like Cheltenham created the more chances and deserved to win. I maintain that we are three experienced players short and we have not signed sufficient quality to take the step up. A quality winger and a striker with a scoring record at this level and a central midfielder capable of playing alongside Lines to compete with Mansell are essential and one can only hope that DC will see todays defeat as a signal that we are not going to be able to compete this season on the complete cheap. Sorry DC but we should have a team at this stage capable of easily containing Cheltenham and securing victory. Before anyone asks I did not,thankfully, go today because I sensed what was going to happen and did not want to come away losing to Non League Cheltenham. Get back to your positive quotes Stevek - this does not suit you - sounds like you are on a wind up. All these games are about is just a run out for early fitness and with no end product. Good for the underdogs but nothing for the top dogs. The size of the crowd says it all - a waste of time for fans and just another training session for the players
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 14:27:35 GMT
Luke got a discounted pizza and free garlic bread in Dominos for having a Dominos tattoo Finally!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 14:31:08 GMT
Same old whinging people p1ssing themselves over a poor pre season performance, as they did for the majority of last season and we all know how that ended up.Some people couldn't see any positive even if they were looking at a battery. Yes we do, the manager often couldn't out-think part time teams, and dispite having a huge budget for the division, and him inheriting a defence that was easily good enough for L2 we just limped out of the division because Pittman can't hit a target that's 8 yards wide and 8 feet tall. Clarke has proved nothing yet, hopefully he will over the next 9 months, but to pretend that last season was some kind of triumph is more deluded than people going into meltdown because we've lost a training session yesterday.
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Post by Rex on Jul 26, 2015 14:38:48 GMT
In terms of minutes per player, I think that has been an excellently well-planned pre-season. Absolutely, and surely that is a pretty major point of pre season. As for whether we have a good season based on the friendlies, the truth is no one has a clue as it is impossible to tell. Although I am sure however the season turns out, plenty of posters will be on here claiming that they predicted all this at the start of the season!
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Post by brizzle on Jul 26, 2015 14:52:57 GMT
Same old whinging people p1ssing themselves over a poor pre season performance, as they did for the majority of last season and we all know how that ended up.Some people couldn't see any positive even if they were looking at a battery. Yes we do, the manager often couldn't out-think part time teams, and dispite having a huge budget for the division, and him inheriting a defence that was easily good enough for L2 we just limped out of the division because Pittman can't hit a target that's 8 yards wide and 8 feet tall. Clarke has proved nothing yet, hopefully he will over the next 9 months, but to pretend that last season was some kind of triumph is more deluded than people going into meltdown because we've lost a training session yesterday.That's exactly how I see it, a training session purely and simply. Is all the fuss because Cheltenham Town is now managed by a certain person (and they're now non-league of course ), or is it just the normal pre-season doom and gloom? Is it a good time to remind ourselves that the season kick's off on the 8th of August, and up until that point it's all about preparation for the upcoming season? Besides which I would question whether anyone can really tell how our preparations are progressing.
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Post by crater on Jul 26, 2015 15:12:49 GMT
Same old whinging people p1ssing themselves over a poor pre season performance, as they did for the majority of last season and we all know how that ended up.Some people couldn't see any positive even if they were looking at a battery. Yes we do, the manager often couldn't out-think part time teams, and dispite having a huge budget for the division, and him inheriting a defence that was easily good enough for L2 we just limped out of the division because Pittman can't hit a target that's 8 yards wide and 8 feet tall. Clarke has proved nothing yet, hopefully he will over the next 9 months, but to pretend that last season was some kind of triumph is more deluded than people going into meltdown because we've lost a training session yesterday. Getting promoted was not a triumph? How on earth can you say that? Aim in August was to get back at the first attempt and we achieved just that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 15:20:56 GMT
Yes we do, the manager often couldn't out-think part time teams, and dispite having a huge budget for the division, and him inheriting a defence that was easily good enough for L2 we just limped out of the division because Pittman can't hit a target that's 8 yards wide and 8 feet tall. Clarke has proved nothing yet, hopefully he will over the next 9 months, but to pretend that last season was some kind of triumph is more deluded than people going into meltdown because we've lost a training session yesterday. Getting promoted was not a triumph? How on earth can you say that? Aim in August was to get back at the first attempt and we achieved just that. It's all about resources and the quality of the opposition. How excited would you get if we beat Manor Farm U11s? Not very, because it isn't a fair contest, likewise we should have blown away the Conference last year, the standard was mostly pitiful. Let's wait and see over the next couple of years how many players from last year's Conference go on to have League careers at a decent level, very few, if any would be my guess. Most of the better players that I noticed were old campaigners on their way down and just looking for a pay day at the end of their careers. Dreadful standard overall.
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Post by crater on Jul 26, 2015 15:50:02 GMT
Getting promoted was not a triumph? How on earth can you say that? Aim in August was to get back at the first attempt and we achieved just that. It's all about resources and the quality of the opposition. How excited would you get if we beat Manor Farm U11s? Not very, because it isn't a fair contest, likewise we should have blown away the Conference last year, the standard was mostly pitiful. Let's wait and see over the next couple of years how many players from last year's Conference go on to have League careers at a decent level, very few, if any would be my guess. Most of the better players that I noticed were old campaigners on their way down and just looking for a pay day at the end of their careers. Dreadful standard overall. A win is a win so if we beat Manor Farm's spotty kids then yeah I'd be happy. Serious question, how did you react then when Mansell put away that final penalty? Did you just calmly walk away thinking well that was hardly a season to celebrate Did you jump up and down like a chimpanzee on a trampoline (as I did) Did you secretly wish we'd got beat so believing your opinions could be vindicated Did you politely clap like Joe a Root had stroked one through cover point for 4 Did you indulge in a spot of stranger hugging Did you immediately think back to disappointing draws at Welling and Alfreton Or was it none of the above?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 15:58:54 GMT
It's all about resources and the quality of the opposition. How excited would you get if we beat Manor Farm U11s? Not very, because it isn't a fair contest, likewise we should have blown away the Conference last year, the standard was mostly pitiful. Let's wait and see over the next couple of years how many players from last year's Conference go on to have League careers at a decent level, very few, if any would be my guess. Most of the better players that I noticed were old campaigners on their way down and just looking for a pay day at the end of their careers. Dreadful standard overall. A win is a win so if we beat Manor Farm's spotty kids then yeah I'd be happy. Buckle would be proud of how low your expectations are.Serious question, how did you react then when Mansell put away that final penalty? Huge relief. The financial implications of staying in that division didn't bare thinking about. Then I looked down at Higgs and wondered what he would waste the play off and Wembley money on. Didn't have to wait long to find out.
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Post by DudeLebowski on Jul 26, 2015 16:17:01 GMT
"DC has proved nothing yet"
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