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Post by texasgas on Oct 23, 2021 15:35:34 GMT
How’s Barton setting us out now? Like absolute mugs |
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Post by Bamber Gashead on Oct 23, 2021 15:44:43 GMT
How’s Barton setting us out now? Like absolute mugs Sums it up. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2021 15:44:53 GMT
When Wael arrived, who would have thought for a second that almost 6 years later we would have run up record losses, would still be in the same dump of a stadium, would have one of football's most despised characters as manager, and would sit 86th out of 92 clubs.
And barely a murmur of dissent from the terraces about it.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Oct 23, 2021 15:49:29 GMT
Being second in the league for attitude has to be a drag on getting momentum and the final league placing hasn’t it? A manager has to recruit for focus and composure as well as send them out organised and drilled, doesn’t he?
If a manager is actually allowed to be involved in recruitment, sometimes clubs like to take things in a different direction.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Oct 23, 2021 15:52:48 GMT
When Wael arrived, who would have thought for a second that almost 6 years later we would have run up record losses, would still be in the same dump of a stadium, would have one of football's most despised characters as manager, and would sit 86th out of 92 clubs. And barely a murmur of dissent from the terraces about it. what’s the way forward then? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2021 15:55:28 GMT
When Wael arrived, who would have thought for a second that almost 6 years later we would have run up record losses, would still be in the same dump of a stadium, would have one of football's most despised characters as manager, and would sit 86th out of 92 clubs. And barely a murmur of dissent from the terraces about it. what’s the way forward then? Why are you asking me? You're the person who wrote a long list of guesses then pretended that you knew everything that was going to happen for the rest of the season when you got lucky and the first 2 guesses were correct. Anyway, here was are, despite all of Punchy's boasting and bravado, a third of the season gone and the team in top position already have double the number of points that we have, but more of a concern, we are 4 points away from a relegation spot. |
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Post by TaiwanGas on Oct 23, 2021 16:08:44 GMT
Newport fully deserved the win, far more hungry and purposeful. Rovers so fragile, we are way, way off a challenge - Barton Out.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Oct 23, 2021 16:12:58 GMT
what’s the way forward then? Why are you asking me? You're the person who wrote a long list of guesses then pretended that you knew everything that was going to happen for the rest of the season when you got lucky and the first 2 guesses were correct. Anyway, here was are, despite all of Punchy's boasting and bravado, a third of the season gone and the team in top position already have double the number of points that we have, but more of a concern, we are 4 points away from a relegation spot. I’d add to that have to stop getting excited when we get points at crap like Colchester, every time we come up against a top half side the results are awful. Not enough clean sheets against them. But to be fair Duke, your post suggested it needs more than Barton sacking, you implied a new Owner is needed? Alternatively the owner can simply invest and find other investors and bring in a Chairman, ChiefExec and DOF who can do those roles well, and leave them to it, without playing Football Manager so poorly himself. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2021 16:19:45 GMT
We should have been 6-1 down at half time. Even the most avid Barton fans out there can't possibly see anything but complete and abject failure?
Barton out.
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Post by phil74 on Oct 23, 2021 16:22:34 GMT
It's been going under the radar how many goals we concede.
I thought QPR, Marseilles etc used to thrive on 1-0 wins?
It might help if two left backs didn't get sent off in the same matcg
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Post by kingswood Polak on Oct 23, 2021 16:39:13 GMT
Even the most avid of Barton fan boys/girls must understand that HE is the biggest problem of all. He has fractured a once truly loyal fan base, had fans fighting with one another and is so full or ordure that any horse would be proud of. The trouble is, we get an occasional win and then we have the usual suspects show theirselves and all of a sudden we are going to be fighting towards the top end
The truth is that we will be very lucky to survive this season in this league and we are looking like a , using Bartons words, team of pub players.
It’s bloody sad to see and even sadder to be a witness to it. I had no idea just how bad this fraud and his boss are. Wael al qadi, hang your head in shame for what you have done to this once proud little club, we may not have had successes but we have never ever been so fractious and both forums are full of awful vitriol.
It’s so bloody sad, it really is
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Post by baselswh on Oct 23, 2021 16:45:50 GMT
Loved Pitmans goal!
County cut through us too often and too comfortably.
We created a few chances,but not enough.
We're abit wishy washy in our passing sometimes,except for Whelan ,a good passer.
I think we could do with a couple of solid defenders.
I thought Belshaw played well.
Worst player on the field,who had a one on one with Belshaw to possibly score Countys fourth,Abraham.Looks non league to me.
I think Joe has plenty to do,but it's certainly not all bad.
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Post by syg on Oct 23, 2021 16:47:03 GMT
Better than the performance v Swindon.
3 at the back doesn't work and nor does playing out from the back. I expect if and when the players can do it the season will be over.
Collins was dire.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 23, 2021 16:53:21 GMT
Just got back...
An easier fixture? Na.....(good post, ESB) got that wrong. Silly me....I thought our management team would have learned in last few matches?
No such thing.
Fair play to Newport. They do everything we should have done.... hassled from first man to last, slick passing, always found space, lacked finishing before their first, but they were in complete control and dominant from the off....I really don't like the play acting, time wasting tactic, they were better than that - absolutely no complaints on the day, they were the better team - we were truly eviscerated.
Much like at Bradford last week.
I can't fault our work ethic, but today it just wasn't Sammy or Collins day.... second half it worked in fits and starts, but too often the final ball was left wanting.
But....on to my major point....you need a goal or two, and hey presto Coutts gets his game, and so does Westbrook (?) Honestly, why? JAB bemoaning the periphery points but unfortunately why bring on the best ball watcher the club has and a false captain that promises, yet never delivers.... it's just lazy. Why not Spence (he was the best finisher at the club a few weeks back?) Or junior brown? ....or why not blood one of the youth strikers?
Anderson inaffective.
Nicholson off form.
Collins man marked.
Whelan giving ball away.
We play Anderton on the left of the back 3, with Alfie on the right come hell or high water, even when it obviously isn't working and we're 2 down....?
I thought Belshaw was m o m until his blunder that was coming sooner or later, but JAB insist on fuc£ing about with it and we have to shut up our trepidations....but it's not the King's new suit....we were lucky at Bradford, even luckier at Colchester, we ain't playing well so why insist on this ridiculous policy?
One bright spark, probably as good a goal as v Mansfield....a sweet volley, made by himself (as their defender committed, James Clarke, maybe?).... Pitman take a bow sir! Bang in the top corner.
JAB again got it wrong.
I think he should be removed, all I can see is a relegation battle because his stubbornness refuses to see common sense.
It's a one trick pony, if Evans or Thomas doesn't deliver, then JAB has no answer of what should be tried differently....I think he's not got a clue of playing to player's strengths, he has his system and everyone has to shoe horn into it whether it works or not.
Well, it didn't today.
He should take some responsibility as a manager.
We are being completely outplayed in large periods of matches and it isn't good enough.
Barton OUT!
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Post by baselswh on Oct 23, 2021 16:56:34 GMT
Better than the performance v Swindon. 3 at the back doesn't work and nor does playing out from the back. I expect if and when the players can do it the season will be over. Collins was dire. Agreed 3 at the back is not strong enough. 4 4 2 I reckon. |
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Post by swissgas on Oct 23, 2021 17:21:37 GMT
Why are you asking me? You're the person who wrote a long list of guesses then pretended that you knew everything that was going to happen for the rest of the season when you got lucky and the first 2 guesses were correct. Anyway, here was are, despite all of Punchy's boasting and bravado, a third of the season gone and the team in top position already have double the number of points that we have, but more of a concern, we are 4 points away from a relegation spot. I’d add to that have to stop getting excited when we get points at crap like Colchester, every time we come up against a top half side the results are awful. Not enough clean sheets against them. But to be fair Duke, your post suggested it needs more than Barton sacking, you implied a new Owner is needed? Alternatively the owner can simply invest and find other investors and bring in a Chairman, ChiefExec and DOF who can do those roles well, and leave them to it, without playing Football Manager so poorly himself. They would have to be trusted friends so how about … Chairman. Will Smith DOF. Mesut Özil CEO. Irene’s Toy Boy |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2021 17:22:10 GMT
Why are you asking me? You're the person who wrote a long list of guesses then pretended that you knew everything that was going to happen for the rest of the season when you got lucky and the first 2 guesses were correct. Anyway, here was are, despite all of Punchy's boasting and bravado, a third of the season gone and the team in top position already have double the number of points that we have, but more of a concern, we are 4 points away from a relegation spot. I’d add to that have to stop getting excited when we get points at crap like Colchester, every time we come up against a top half side the results are awful. Not enough clean sheets against them. But to be fair Duke, your post suggested it needs more than Barton sacking, you implied a new Owner is needed? Alternatively the owner can simply invest and find other investors and bring in a Chairman, ChiefExec and DOF who can do those roles well, and leave them to it, without playing Football Manager so poorly himself. I said a long time ago that Wael needed help from a 'proper football person'. Barton is not that person. The total capitulation last season resulting in relegation, which presumably Barton was brought in to prevent, and getting stuffed, at home, by both the manager Wael sacked a year ago for not being good enough, swiftly followed by being humiliated by Newport flipping County should be evidence enough, even for Wael. |
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Post by richmace on Oct 23, 2021 17:26:17 GMT
The Gas fall to another home defeat against a lively looking Newport County team. County scored twice in the first half before Brett Pitman pulled a goal back in first half injury time with an excellent finish from fifteen yards out.
Newport County had the better of the first half, and the feeling at half time was that we were lucky to be only one goal behind at half time. With Pitman’s goal, the game has changed from being a lost cause to game on!
Once again Belshaw made a number of excellent saves to keep us in the game, as well as a superb headed clearance off the line by Taylor. Both players had an excellent game.
At times we showed some flashes of skill, Anthony Evans, Aaron Collins and Luke Thomas all looking lively and producing an attacking threat.
One comment that I have is that it is difficult to see the game plan we are trying to achieve. We have a quality goal poacher in Brett Pitman, who is now regularly finding the net. The trouble is that we play so deep that we do not appear to be playing to Pitman’s strengths. He is not going to chase long through balls, his specialty is being deadly in the box. His goal today was a prime example of that. We don’t seem to be set up to take advantage of this though, and I can’t believe that Newport County were so good that they pinned us back.
Newport County effectively kill the game off just after the hour mark with a perfectly executed counter attack, completely against the run of play. There was a feeling in the South West stand that the goalscorer was offside, but I was not 100% on this.
We huffed and puffed and failed to score the goal that would have made the end of the game interesting, so our visitors make the short trip back to South Wales happy and with a deserved three points.
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Post by gasprom on Oct 23, 2021 17:27:32 GMT
He sounds like he’s blaming the previous managers again for the group being fragile.
9 of the starting 11 today he signed. When will he start being accountable for the crap he’s serving up?
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Post by laughinggas on Oct 23, 2021 17:30:22 GMT
Thought we started 4 3 3.
They switched to 4 4 2 after earlier substitution which made us overrun in midfield.
Anderson and Anderton were encouraged to get forward but seemed slow to get back. Telford just drifted along looking for the spaces providing an out ball ar times and showed the nous to break through our ponderous defence.
JB still talking like it's a hangover from last season despite only three players today involved last season.
We had a little spell of being on front foot after half time. Maybe if Nicholson had scored we could have kicked on. Ifs buts and maybes.
Barton walk!
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