GasMacc1
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Post by GasMacc1 on Feb 16, 2020 11:16:55 GMT
Try to get back on topic.. Anyone notice when we went to 4-4-2, more players became active? I think BG was too slow to react to that yesterday.. Yes, we became more effective, thanks to the changes BG made in the last quarter. I think we still might have scored those goals and won the match even if Blackpool had not had the player sent off.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 11:20:43 GMT
Sshhhhhhhhh, for ducksake, man. Before GC scarpered, we were in the playoff places, possibly even chasing the automatic placed runners-up spot (stop laughing). It was dull at the Meorial Ground, however, so lots of us weren't happy, and lots more weren't going. Then GC left, and one of two things happened. Either (A) the GC ascent was fragile, overrated, and bound to collapse at some stage, so it collapsed; or (B) the GC ascent was down to GC (and stability) and without him (or without his stability) the side were weakened, so it collapsed. But it did collapse. All hope of promotion extinguished, we stopped winning any games whatsoever, while opinion divided between much better football and much weaker football. Now we have won a match (just one) this year, and realise there are at least three teams below us who are useless, the table indicates our season's over. We can't go up or down: thanks Uncle 'oddstracker' Eppers. For the rest of this season, we should play only next season's players. There are only two objectives remaining, now. (A) to play and to coach the players and formation with which to challenge the top six of the third division next year. (B) to play exciting and appealing football to get as many Gasheads as possible to buy matchday tickets and next season's season tickets. Synthesis of (A) and (B) is BG's only job now, as far as I can see. Entertain this season while building for next season. There's no point in boring to grind out results now.
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Feb 16, 2020 11:21:01 GMT
My one shortcomings? You really are a spiteful individual. Slagging people of from the comfort of your own keyboard. No better than a playground bully or a Sun reporter. Feck you. You started it. Looks like, just like a bully, you can't handle it when you get some of your own medicine thrown back at you. I merely asked you to stop being so sodding negative for a short while in the light of a much needed win, that is all. Not quite the same as ‘16 years of own shortcomings’. More than happy to discuss this face to face, And before anyone piles in, I am not talking about violence or anything, just trying to workout why someone I may have met once many years ago is so full of hatred. It’s not a pleasant attribute.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Feb 16, 2020 11:24:34 GMT
Only 6.6K in attendance yesterday. It looked less to me but they do add ST holders. Lots of gaps on all terraces and seats in south stand
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Rex
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Post by Rex on Feb 16, 2020 11:27:49 GMT
Screamer from Kilgour was a real beauty and the timing superb, a much needed win but make no mistake, Blackpool were by far the better team, Blackman kept us in it. Yep, we were as bad as in every game so far under Garner, saved by a sending off, a wonder strike, a huge deflection and 3 chances that they somehow missed. But hey, a win is a win, I'll take it. Garner did show some tactical awareness today, he sent a message to the ball boys to get the ball back to their keeper quickly. What on earth was that referee doing, 2 goal kick decisions changed to corners because their players shouted at him? The linesman didn't give either as a corner, he was in position for the goal kick both times. can anyone clarify what happened. Because from where I was , I saw it exactly the same way. ref gives a goal kick, Blackpool shout at him , and he changes his mind. There didn't seem to be any communication between ref and linesman, or have I got that wrong?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 11:29:45 GMT
You started it. Looks like, just like a bully, you can't handle it when you get some of your own medicine thrown back at you. I merely asked you to stop being so sodding negative for a short while in the light of a much needed win, that is all. Not quite the same as ‘16 years of own shortcomings’. More than happy to discuss this face to face, And before anyone piles in, I am not talking about violence or anything, just trying to workout why someone I may have met once many years ago is so full of hatred. It’s not a pleasant attribute. No you didn't, in your usual snide, arrogant way, you said ''Please give it a bloody rest''. As I said at the time, if you want a forum where everybody agrees with you, go start one, otherwise you are just going to have to accept that people will have different thoughts to you. Tell you what, how about this to allow us to move forward, I won't jump in and tell you to be quiet if you think that things are good, and you accept that I may sometimes think that things aren't quite so good. For what it's worth, I still hope that Ben can turn this around, but so far I don't see any of those 'green shoots' that people keep mentioning. That's my honest opinion, I thought that was the entire purpose of this type of board, for people with different opinions to express them?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 11:36:28 GMT
More than happy to discuss this face to face, And before anyone piles in, I am not talking about violence or anything, just trying to workout why someone I may have met once many years ago is so full of hatred. Well, that sentence started better than it finished. I have to say, Bambi and the Priest are two of the Guzzler's most interesting writers. I really value that: I read the Guzzler not to read people agreeing with me, but to read people being interesting. When the personal remarks descend like they have today, it stops being interesting. As two writers I look out for, I think it would be great for you two to have it out privately (obviously debating not fighting). I'm a fan of argument, not fight. The dialectic is vital to our intellectual development. Having met again in person, and sorted it out, I'd like to read your arguments. It's sad to read your insult or your spite. Best wishes to both of you.
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Post by laughinggas on Feb 16, 2020 11:42:56 GMT
Yep, we were as bad as in every game so far under Garner, saved by a sending off, a wonder strike, a huge deflection and 3 chances that they somehow missed. But hey, a win is a win, I'll take it. Garner did show some tactical awareness today, he sent a message to the ball boys to get the ball back to their keeper quickly. What on earth was that referee doing, 2 goal kick decisions changed to corners because their players shouted at him? The linesman didn't give either as a corner, he was in position for the goal kick both times. can anyone clarify what happened. Because from where I was , I saw it exactly the same way. ref gives a goal kick, Blackpool shout at him , and he changes his mind. There didn't seem to be any communication between ref and linesman, or have I got that wrong? Got the impression that fourth said something in his earpiece.
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Feb 16, 2020 11:48:25 GMT
can anyone clarify what happened. Because from where I was , I saw it exactly the same way. ref gives a goal kick, Blackpool shout at him , and he changes his mind. There didn't seem to be any communication between ref and linesman, or have I got that wrong? Got the impression that fourth said something in his earpiece. Pretty sure it was the liner wot gave it.
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Rex
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Post by Rex on Feb 16, 2020 11:48:36 GMT
can anyone clarify what happened. Because from where I was , I saw it exactly the same way. ref gives a goal kick, Blackpool shout at him , and he changes his mind. There didn't seem to be any communication between ref and linesman, or have I got that wrong? Got the impression that fourth said something in his earpiece. Shows my ignorance then, I didn't even realise he was allowed to do that.
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Post by lostinspace on Feb 16, 2020 11:57:11 GMT
Only 5013 in attendance yesterday. That is much worse than I thought and will need addressing. i would imagine you could take out over 600 people coming because of the weather situation, , but still not that good,
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 12:03:35 GMT
Only 5013 in attendance yesterday. That is much worse than I thought and will need addressing. I think that we count all ST holders, whether they turn up or not, so probably a fair few less than that actually in the ground.
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harrybuckle
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Post by harrybuckle on Feb 16, 2020 12:06:23 GMT
You started it. Looks like, just like a bully, you can't handle it when you get some of your own medicine thrown back at you. I merely asked you to stop being so sodding negative for a short while in the light of a much needed win, that is all. Not quite the same as ‘16 years of own shortcomings’. More than happy to discuss this face to face, And before anyone piles in, I am not talking about violence or anything, just trying to workout why someone I may have met once many years ago is so full of hatred. It’s not a pleasant attribute. fight,fight,fight ….break it up....nothing to see here
Maybe both should cool off by volunteering to sleepout at the Mem for the Rovers Trust fundraiser. Apparently you get a bacon butty the next morning and a free ticket for Sunderland home game. Adam Tutton welcomes more people just need a sleeping bag and its a great cause...homelessness in Bristol
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Angas
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Post by Angas on Feb 16, 2020 12:12:15 GMT
Will you be there, harry?
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Post by a more piratey game on Feb 16, 2020 12:13:22 GMT
Only 5013 in attendance yesterday. That is much worse than I thought and will need addressing. the other few thousand were probably queuing to get into the Ark
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 12:39:21 GMT
Only 5013 in attendance yesterday. That is much worse than I thought and will need addressing. How do you know that? Cannot find anything on our website or the bbc website regarding attendance.
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Post by Curly Wurly on Feb 16, 2020 12:41:01 GMT
Only 5013 in attendance yesterday. That is much worse than I thought and will need addressing. Are you sure about this figure KP? I thought the announcement was more like 6600?
Not that that is much better, but the weather was a massive factor in the poor attendance yesterday.
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Post by Curly Wurly on Feb 16, 2020 13:03:09 GMT
My take on the game is slightly different from some on here. For anyone watching on iplayer or listening on the radio, you need to understand just how bad the conditions were and how a driving southerly wind meant Blackpool were dominant in the first half, but it was in Rovers favour in the second.
The other thng that needs to be understood is how game dynamics work. I accept that our defending was poor for their goal. The first ball should have been cleared properly and Little needed to put his body on the line to prevent the shot. But my point is that being 1:0 up and with the sending off, plus the wind meant that Blackpool decided to play 10 men behind the ball all half. As most people know this can be difficult to unlock if the condiitions are good, but with such a disruptive wind, crafted approach play is out of the window. We were frustrated until Alfie's wonder strike - although I was surprised that we didn't attempt more shots from distance against a good, but small keeper with the wind directly behind (Rodman did from out wide to be fair and caused trouble).
So why did Blackpool get the chances they did in the second half? I am a bit worried by the ease with which Blackpool were able to cut through, but with Rovers pushing forward to get an equaliser, we were always vulnerable to a break away.
Additionally, Rovers were playing with the tension of a team that hasn't won for a long time and being one down adds to the urgency, but led to mistakes. One thing that did infuriate me was how naive we were in not running the clock down once we were 2:1 up. Blackpool had wasted time all game. Feigning injury on half a dozen occasions. Telling ball boys not to retrieve the ball. Arguing every decision with the Ref (even getting him to change his mind with one decision because of this pressure!!!) it all runs the clock down. But we seem to be the nice guys, playing with some sort of Corinthian spirit. Into injury time, one goal up, don't quickly pass the ball back to the thrower so he can get it in play sooner, take as much time as the ref will allow to take every restart, go down with cramp, etc. etc. This is professional football not some garden tea party.
Given the conditions, and the pattern of the game, I was pretty pleased with the way we coped and the outcome. There will be the odd game where we will stroll to a comfortable victory, but overwhelmingly teams in this division will offer some threat as Blackpool did, for the reasons I have outlined.
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Post by irenestoyboy on Feb 16, 2020 13:10:20 GMT
Only 5013 in attendance yesterday. That is much worse than I thought and will need addressing. I think that we count all ST holders, whether they turn up or not, so probably a fair few less than that actually in the ground. There was 6600 according to the official attendance...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 13:22:35 GMT
Sshhhhhhhhh, for ducksake, man. Before GC scarpered, we were in the playoff places, possibly even chasing the automatic placed runners-up spot (stop laughing). It was dull at the Meorial Ground, however, so lots of us weren't happy, and lots more weren't going. Then GC left, and one of two things happened. Either (A) the GC ascent was fragile, overrated, and bound to collapse at some stage, so it collapsed; or (B) the GC ascent was down to GC (and stability) and without him (or without his stability) the side were weakened, so it collapsed. But it did collapse. All hope of promotion extinguished, we stopped winning any games whatsoever, while opinion divided between much better football and much weaker football. Now we have won a match (just one) this year, and realise there are at least three teams below us who are useless, the table indicates our season's over. We can't go up or down: thanks Uncle 'oddstracker' Eppers. For the rest of this season, we should play only next season's players. There are only two objectives remaining, now. (A) to play and to coach the players and formation with which to challenge the top six of the third division next year. (B) to play exciting and appealing football to get as many Gasheads as possible to buy matchday tickets and next season's season tickets. Synthesis of (A) and (B) is BG's only job now, as far as I can see. Entertain this season while building for next season. There's no point in boring to grind out results now. Spot on sir.
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