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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2021 22:06:30 GMT
Considering that he has promoted every team that he has managed I respectfully think you are talking crap. However, that squad of players are so far out of their depth, they are drowning. Only from tier four or below! That makes Darrell Clarke an even worse manager, he took a league team into non league before only one EFL promotion. Two football league promotions aint a bad record and no fluke. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2021 22:10:02 GMT
It beggars belief to read some of the venomous bile spewed out on this thread. We are all entitled to our opinions regarding the Board,Management and players. Some of you may have changed your identities, unfortunately however your dislike for this Club, still shines through. UTG I’m sorry that an opinion other than your own has offended your delicate sensibilities so much. You said it yourself though- we are all entitled to our views |
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Post by phil74 on Jan 30, 2021 22:49:29 GMT
I'm a big supporter of Tisdale and will stick by him even if we go down. However, I think he made a tactical mistake today in sticking to the back 3. We played into Rochdale's hands - particularly in the first half - where they were able frequently to push their front 3 high onto our DCs and we had no spare man.
I'd prefer a back 4 of Leahy, Kilgour, Ehmer and Williams.
I posted the other day questioning what our overall frustration may come down to? I didn't actually answer my own question. The more I think about it, I wonder if it's been the inability to kick on since Matty Taylor and Bodin left. Darrell said at the time we were "selling the goals out of the team". Although we subsequently signed JCH, the fact remains that we've struggled to score as a team for the last three years and it becomes draining as a supporter.
I do believe we have a number of talented players in the team, but the real problem is the lack of a proven goalscorer in attack. Daly looked good until his injury, but he's still very raw. Hanlan is going through a lean patch at the moment. Ideally, we'd have two other recognised League One finishers on the books. (Although I can't actually name any!) I think it's the poor recruitment in striking positions since 2018 that is a major source of frustration.
On a plus side today, I was very pleasantly surprised to hear Max & Mets from GasCast providing commentary on iFollow. I don't know if this was their first time doing something like this, but I thought they were excellent, keeping a good focus on the game. The banter didn't become too self-indulgent either and Byron Anthony as an analyst was superb. This is nothing against the Radio Bristol commentary, which I enjoy too.
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Post by bluetornados on Jan 30, 2021 22:58:29 GMT
Paul Tisdale was critical of his Bristol Rovers players after Saturday’s 2-1 defeat to Rochdale at the Mem, which kept the Gas just a point clear of the relegation zone.
Alex Newby was gifted a brace either side of Luke Leahy’s equaliser. Newby’s first came from a terribly-defended corner – Rovers’ Achilles heel in recent weeks – before his tame shot beat Joe Day and squirmed over the line in the second half.
There was a change in tone from Tisdale’s press conferences after recent defeats. This evening his was forthright and angry, as self-inflicted errors cost his side dearly once again.
“As you can imagine, I’m disappointed to lose,” he said.
“We are in a position where we need to play standard play and be good at standard football, it’s not about how pretty it becomes or how nice it is.
“It’s about making sure we make enough sensible decisions and we optimise our game. When it was tough on Tuesday, we played standard play and they were good at it.
“Today they were poor again and it’s got to stop.
“It was a different game compared to during the week, a different opponent and challenge, but you’ve got to stick to standard play.
“Doing things simply and well is good play and we became off-piste again. OK, we could’ve easily got a result today but we weren’t in a position where we were going to make sure we had a result.
“There were too many grey areas, the ball didn’t go into the box enough when we had the chance to, but I’m more concerned about conceding two very soft goals again.”
Tisdale’s frustrations stemmed from Rovers’ dead ball defending in particular, and he once has demanded an improvement in that department.
“The first one was a set-piece goal, so that’s been a theme for us recently and we’ve got to eradicate it,” the manager said.
“It’s not as if we’re not talking about it and coaching on it, we’ve just got to make sure that we remove those kinds of goals from our game.
“Clearly we’re not doing well enough, there’s got to be a reason why.
“You can have the odd goal which just goes against you and you can’t stop because there’s a something perfect about it.
“I think the accumulation recently suggests that’s not the only reason.
“We’ve got to do better, there’s organisation and platform you put in place but the players have got to go and execute it and apply themselves.”
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Jan 31, 2021 6:53:42 GMT
On a plus side today, I was very pleasantly surprised to hear Max & Mets from GasCast providing commentary on iFollow. I don't know if this was their first time doing something like this, but I thought they were excellent, keeping a good focus on the game. The banter didn't become too self-indulgent either and Byron Anthony as an analyst was superb. This is nothing against the Radio Bristol commentary, which I enjoy too. It's their second time and it was just as poor as the first. Byron Anthony is a good co-commentator but those two are amateur. It's like listening to a radio chat show, irritating to say the least. Not as bad as old Roger Malone, mind, but he only had himself to chat to. As for Rovers, Glynn Hodges has been sacked so we can expect a small bounce from Wimbledon now. There's talent in that squad but they're playing like Duracell bunnies on flat batteries. As Byron mentioned a couple of times, they needed to up the pace and not allow Dale to dictate it. This is a team that ships goals for fun but we made it so easy for them. Another thing that has stood out since Tisdale arrived is the lack of tactical nous and guile, the ability to pull defenders and create space. It's all so predictable. |
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Post by harrybuckle on Jan 31, 2021 8:40:32 GMT
Just right wins in 39 matched since Coughlan walked.
That is serious relegation form
Accrington Stanley our bogey team on Tuesday will probably mean 8 in 40.
The young strikers at the club need drafting in clearly Ayunga out of his depth.
Keeping the faith in Le Tiss but players clearly not good enough.
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Post by eppinggas on Jan 31, 2021 9:25:59 GMT
The case for the defence (no pun intended).
Until we made the substitutions, I thought we were the better side. Dale only had two shots on target all game.
1. A tap in from an undefended near post corner and
2. A combination of no-one shutting down a marauding centre back, Leahy no-where near close enough Newbie, and Day fluffing his lines.
PTv2 obviously quite angry post-game. It was a 'defensive' setup and I think he still wants to tighten that before looking to add to the attack. Williams & Leahy were getting forward well and the CB's were shuffling across to cover. Thought the shape was pretty good. Oztumer was lively and always looking to unlock the defence. He must have taken a knock, he should have been the last player to come off IMHO. We need Daley back to give better support to Hanlan.
60% possession. Shots: Gas 18 Dale 7. On target: Gas 4 Dale 2. Corners: Gas 8 Dale 1.
Yes, a very disappointing result. As are the some of the comments about Paul Tisdale. He was pretty much unanimously lauded when Wael brought him in. He will need time to meld this squad into a solid mid-table side. Even if we go down (I don't think we will) - I'd stick with him.
In all honesty, even with a fully fit XI playing at their best, this side is no better than mid-table. Recruitment has been poor. Don't blame the manager.
Keep the Faith. That's what you do. Up The Gas.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 31, 2021 9:55:52 GMT
Oh dear.
Again.
Collectively poor defending, again. And poor goalkeeping, again. Also, with the few opportunities presented to us, poor finishing means we got exactly what we deserved and are exactly where we should be. Poor.
The policy of non marking in penalty area, allowing too much space and non stopping of crosses and shots will take it's toll. Rochdale took full advantage. And why not? If this is how we choose to defend, pretty much anyone could do that!
I think Tis made mistake again with unforced substitutions. Barrett, Ayunga bring nothing to the table and although we can give them time to acclimatise, time is going to be running out soon. Grant was a forced sub and again performed, well done to him.
I also would question Westbrooke involvement from the start as in open play he's almost anonymous. From dead ball deliveries, very decent sometimes.
I would question Ehmer defensively. Can't complain with the sublime cross for Leahy strike but defensively I can't see what he does as a captain? Gave the ball away horribly twice yesterday that led to dangerous counter attack.
Brendan (🤭) ran socks off again, but because we play with no direct support for him, he's left exposed and hasn't scored this year. He desperately needs a strike partner of credibility, yet Tis alludes there will probably be no addition. Maybe that's not his fault, but why not recall some youth? Can it really be worse than not scoring?
Some approach play is very decent. In attack and on the ball we lack pace. It's like watching in slow motion when we're in opponents box. Easier to defend than the direct play of Rochdale.
I'm still very much behind Tis, bit it's not unconditional. The recent run in form is alarming, and as much as I admire his post match level of honesty, I am left with no confidence he can turn it around. Quite honestly, I'm left with no confidence ANYONE can turn this around with these players, making basic mistakes is difficult to work with!?
It's difficult to see where the next points are going to come from..
In summary.
We had chances to affect change, but didn't take them. We didn't capitalise on Rochdale's mistakes like they did with us. We deserved to not win this match. It's the best way to dampen enthusiasm from a spirited display at Peterborough.....what happened in 2.5 days to allow that to happen?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 31, 2021 10:03:51 GMT
Recruitment has been poor. Don't blame the manager. Disagree, Eppers me ole mate. If you are prepared to give credit to a manager, logically a level of blame had to be levelled in the same vain? Starting a match with 6 defenders resulting in a negative result needs some sort of explanation somewhere doesn't it? Agree with keeping the faith.... it's all we can do as paying fans, but this does demonstrate how far we've dropped in an amazingly short amount of time!? |
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Post by a more piratey game on Jan 31, 2021 11:25:03 GMT
In attack and on the ball we lack pace I thought this was the single biggest change that Tis had brought to the team. But it has slowly slipped away 2nd biggest is probably bringing Alfie back 3rd might turn out to be Ogogo, but I think the jury's still out on that |
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Post by phil74 on Jan 31, 2021 11:33:09 GMT
The case for the defence (no pun intended). Until we made the substitutions, I thought we were the better side. Dale only had two shots on target all game. 1. A tap in from an undefended near post corner and 2. A combination of no-one shutting down a marauding centre back, Leahy no-where near close enough Newbie, and Day fluffing his lines. PTv2 obviously quite angry post-game. It was a 'defensive' setup and I think he still wants to tighten that before looking to add to the attack. Williams & Leahy were getting forward well and the CB's were shuffling across to cover. Thought the shape was pretty good. Oztumer was lively and always looking to unlock the defence. He must have taken a knock, he should have been the last player to come off IMHO. We need Daley back to give better support to Hanlan. 60% possession. Shots: Gas 18 Dale 7. On target: Gas 4 Dale 2. Corners: Gas 8 Dale 1. Yes, a very disappointing result. As are the some of the comments about Paul Tisdale. He was pretty much unanimously lauded when Wael brought him in. He will need time to meld this squad into a solid mid-table side. Even if we go down (I don't think we will) - I'd stick with him. In all honesty, even with a fully fit XI playing at their best, this side is no better than mid-table. Recruitment has been poor. Don't blame the manager. Keep the Faith. That's what you do. Up The Gas. I agree. 2 shots on target for Rochdale and they scored from both. We went through a spell like this towards the end of Darrell's reign and it must be a mental thing? We've conceded some cheap goals recently - against Charlton, Crewe, Oxford and now Rochdale. My heart sank with every set piece position they found themselves in. Naive question perhaps - but why didn't we set up in the way they did? I know we wanted to target their centre halves with direct balls over the top, but why not mix it up more through the middle with Westbrook, Oz and Nicholson? |
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Post by gasheadpirate on Jan 31, 2021 11:33:25 GMT
The only good thing about yesterday was how angry Tis was in his interview.
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Post by a more piratey game on Jan 31, 2021 11:40:02 GMT
The only good thing about yesterday was how angry Tis was in his interview. I've just seen it, and agree. And I think he's not just a puffer - he'll puff, and then do something about it his media management remains excellent |
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Post by TaiwanGas on Jan 31, 2021 12:52:07 GMT
First League game I have missed live on ifollow this season (luckily) and I am not going to bother to watch the replay, saw the goals on utube and thought Leahy's volley was superb, we should stick him up front!, would like to see Rodman get more game time, he can head and kick a ball in the direction of the opponents goal.
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Post by eppinggas on Jan 31, 2021 13:44:51 GMT
Recruitment has been poor. Don't blame the manager. Disagree, Eppers me ole mate. If you are prepared to give credit to a manager, logically a level of blame had to be levelled in the same vain? Starting a match with 6 defenders resulting in a negative result needs some sort of explanation somewhere doesn't it? Agree with keeping the faith.... it's all we can do as paying fans, but this does demonstrate how far we've dropped in an amazingly short amount of time!? Having read your thoughts... I don't think we saw the game massively differently. With the unbalanced squad Tisdale inherited, we're almost 'forced' into playing three at the back. How else can we set up? We haven't got any 'real' wingers. The only natural width we have is with Williams/Leahy and that was working well. With Ogogo protecting the back four and Oztumer, Nicholson, Westbrook in midfield we looked solid enough. Maybe a bit over-cautious? But with a leaky defence, and slightly suspect keeper - that's what Tisdale looks like he is trying to tighten up. Whoever was supposed to be near post and/or marking Lund for their 1st needs bloody shooting. I think Annsi would have saved that scuffy shot from Newbie. And it was far too easy for him to get round Leahy though for their 2nd (and only their 2nd shot on target). I don't think Dale were the better side. Our 2 late substitutions were a bit baffling. But what quality is available off the bench? Answer: None. That's down to recruitment. Daley comes back to partner Hanlan. Annsi comes back and the defence will look more comfortable. I think some of the very negativity responses to the result are a bit over done. IMHO. UTG. |
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Jan 31, 2021 14:29:16 GMT
Back to basics, says Tis.
With all the Brimstone and Fire in this thread, particularly directed at two managers, the bottom line is it’s just basic mistakes from players that cost us all season.
There’s a shared moment in both Brealeys Art of Captaincy and Hughes lot of hard yakka, where he pulls Hughes aside and says “you bowl 5 fine delivery’s each over and one bad one, you need to make it six fine ones” and Hughes honestly replies “I’m not good enough to do that”.
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Post by syg on Jan 31, 2021 15:49:56 GMT
crikey, just seen his interview, the last 20 secs he was was boiling over. the angriest i can remember a manager. we need a mic in the changing room.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jan 31, 2021 15:56:03 GMT
These players aren't good enough, no manager could mould a competitive team at this level with them. One person owns and runs this club and I'm struggling to think of a footballing decision he's got right, apart from guessing with Coughlan. That wasn't exactly going out and identifying an unearthed diamond that everybody else had overlooked, it was an internal appointment that worked brilliantly. But even then we don't know yet why he left. Here's the League record since Jan 1st 2020, under 2 managers and goodness knows how many backroom staff, P36. W8 D8 L20 Points 32. That'll give you 41 points from 46 games. Wael has made an almighty mess of things. In a nutshell. The buck lays firmly at his feet. The team we had in our NL season would trounce this lot |
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Post by swissgas on Jan 31, 2021 16:09:49 GMT
These players aren't good enough, no manager could mould a competitive team at this level with them. One person owns and runs this club and I'm struggling to think of a footballing decision he's got right, apart from guessing with Coughlan. That wasn't exactly going out and identifying an unearthed diamond that everybody else had overlooked, it was an internal appointment that worked brilliantly. But even then we don't know yet why he left. Here's the League record since Jan 1st 2020, under 2 managers and goodness knows how many backroom staff, P36. W8 D8 L20 Points 32. That'll give you 41 points from 46 games. Wael has made an almighty mess of things. In a nutshell. The buck lays firmly at his feet. The team we had in our NL season would trounce this lot Ban them Mods.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2021 16:23:51 GMT
In a nutshell. The buck lays firmly at his feet. The team we had in our NL season would trounce this lot Ban them Mods. Then when them Mods are banned ban Rockers as well. |
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