eppinggas
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Post by eppinggas on Nov 21, 2020 17:01:13 GMT
Bizarre late substitutions. Koike and Baldwin coming on? A bit pants. On a 'positive' note Upson waited until quite late before picking up his customary yellow. The only way is up. Allegedly.
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bloogas
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Post by bloogas on Nov 21, 2020 17:05:59 GMT
Bizarre late substitutions. Koike and Baldwin coming on? A bit pants. On a 'positive' note Upson waited until quite late before picking up his customary yellow. The only way is up. Allegedly. As predicted by Exeter City fans. Strange lineups, substitutions too late, etc..
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Nov 21, 2020 17:12:22 GMT
Killer had a bad game. Keeper missed one. And a rubbish Swindon side best us.
Where was the press and recycling ball quickly using the keeper? Most weeks under garner our performance was better than that.
We got we deserved from the game. Game very low on quality. We don’t need Upson at the club keeping Zano or grant out the team, that’s not the way to progress.
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Post by lostinspace on Nov 21, 2020 17:17:41 GMT
Huffing, puffing hoofball. What happened to that great plan of o
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jets4
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Post by jets4 on Nov 21, 2020 17:36:06 GMT
poor to say the least!! one dumb free kick given away, Alfie needs to be a little restrained in these critical areas Shouldn't be anywhere near the first team. Been obvious for a long time. Has at least one mistake in him every game. Need to get rid.
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Post by tenniscourtgas on Nov 21, 2020 17:41:52 GMT
A depressingly poor performance, the style of play Garner was attempting, effectively binned, more long ball, ponderous in possession, ball control from too many players , diabolical. Capped off with the regulation stupid free kick given away, and subsequent free header. Swindon are such a poor side, and we hardly threatened in the second half until the last few minutes. How Westbrooke or Otzumer couldn’t get into this side is beyond my understanding, No confidence on the ball from Kilgour, or Harries ,the wings back contributing very little going forward.
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Post by basel on Nov 21, 2020 17:46:22 GMT
We're in the relegation zone,4 from bottom.
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Post by laughinggas on Nov 21, 2020 18:22:39 GMT
Was that the worst we have played for a while?
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Post by billyocean on Nov 21, 2020 18:31:35 GMT
At least the commentators couldn’t use “scoreless” at the end
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Nov 21, 2020 18:35:06 GMT
Thought we were unlucky to lose.
Poor game. Lost possession too easily. Scrappy. Kilgour still looks weak with the ball. Ehmer still looks not a captain. I liked Upson contribution and variety in set piece dead ball deliveries. An out of character mistake by Jaak and all too familiar defender non marking married with an unfortunate referee decision conspired our downfall.....if Harries had not been substituted before, would he have cleared or market Sh*tman better? Nicholson sometimes looks unplayable. So does Hanlan.
McCormick everywhere.... involved in most moves, like his work ethic, commitment and ideas. My m o m.
Tis gets a pass on this one.... really like the formation change to diamond (just not the initial personnel that implemented it) and the idea to sub Westbrooke for Harries whom appeared decidedly unsettled with the change, it was a good idea to force change. Not too keen on two defensive subs and reversion when 1-0 down, but maybe there was reason for that?
We really need something at Wigan.
It's a work in progress, Tis has his work cut out, hope he gets the support from staff around him and brings some stable new ideas to the table. As ever, jury is out for me..
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Post by alanrg on Nov 21, 2020 18:39:27 GMT
Kilgour is a liability hurry up Tom Davies and come back
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Post by a more piratey game on Nov 21, 2020 18:49:38 GMT
We started the season like we were still on the training ground, playing out from the back every time as per the exercise set. After 2-3 games we had learned to mix it up. Today we went to to other extreme of sticking to L1 lumping it
It was a very poor match with little quality from either side
Unlike the RadBris commentators, I thought both teams looked dodgy at the back
Very equal, a draw would have been fair, but Swindle took their chance and we didn't
Good to see Le Tis changing things, but I didn't notice any improvement
Hardon and Nicholson were the standouts for us, but we seemed to miss Daly. And Grant had a bit more bite today
Alfie, Anssi and Tooty were disappointing I thought, and Hare didn't get forward much
Still the same lack of speed going forward, Nicholson's acceleration apart
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2020 20:04:05 GMT
Every player piss poor. I don't want football to return to normality any time soon. Unless you are happy with 4,000 at the mem.
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alanrg
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Post by alanrg on Nov 21, 2020 20:07:11 GMT
These players need a kick up the backside
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2020 21:54:13 GMT
Kilgour 3 out of 10 according to the evening post. What manager in his right mind wouldn't drop him for the next match. He has been s**t for the last few matches. We shall see.
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Angas
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Post by Angas on Nov 21, 2020 22:20:49 GMT
I can't comment on the game. But if PT knew nothing about the players before, It sounds as if he will have learnt a lot today. Better for him to see all their weaknesses early on than see a performance that hides the truth? When something needs fixing it's usually best to know exactly what's wrong before you start.
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Post by irishrover on Nov 22, 2020 1:08:30 GMT
Bizarre late substitutions. Koike and Baldwin coming on? A bit pants. On a 'positive' note Upson waited until quite late before picking up his customary yellow. The only way is up. Allegedly. They were deeply weird. But in fairness we did have our only decent period in the whole game after those substitutions were made and, in truth, were unlucky not to get an equaliser in that period (although I don't think we deserved anything overall). So I think you could reasonably say that the change of shape actually did make a difference.
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Post by TaiwanGas on Nov 22, 2020 2:39:31 GMT
Ponderous an understatement when we had the ball, one particular passage of play in the second half when Grant receives a pass from the defense, center pitch, is in acres of space and time, not a Swindon shirt in sight and he passes it back to the defense, truly dreadful. How can a whole team lose the basics of ball control simultaneously!.
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Post by mangogas15 on Nov 22, 2020 7:58:40 GMT
I don't know what to make of it really. Swindon were there for the taking, it looks like we came for a clean sheet and nearly got it, but against Swindon?! They were awful.
They had no pace upfront therefore there was an opportunity to play higher. I liked the 3-5-2 for round pegs and everyone knows I love that formation, but it was definitely 5-3-2, Tutonda and Hare told not to venture forward.
75 minutes is too late to then start attacking, the free kick we gave away for the goal didn't look like one, it didn't look like a foul, don't know why.
Tisdale will be able to take stock and implement something before Tuesday which again is a good opportunity to pick up 3 pts but this current situation gives me little confidence.
I was really looking forward to yesterday's game but we showed our weaknesses which was mainly a lack of guts and experience, but this little run will be ok if he turns it round soon.
He has to work with them until Jan at least if he wants to change it, bring in one or two. I do feel it's only one or two needed though.
Jakkiola was at fault for the goal, such a soft one, bit like kids football. He's usually good at those, so I will allow it.
The players out there were good enough to win, but Daly plays and we do win. It made a big difference, Hanlan was isolated too often. I still rate him, opposition defenders can't deal with him and not everything he tries has to come off. Maybe the odd decision needs scrutiny.
We won the ball in their half well a few times, just lacked the final ball.
This was definitely a freebie for Tisdale being signed on Thursday, it was almost like watching from the stands before meeting the players. We would not have won under BG that is certain.
Can someone talk to Kilgour and find out what he needs, the young player of the year last season looks out of his depth on the ball, that free kick he took was rushed, wasted a good opportunity to get the ball in a dangerous area, why was he even taking it? He played ok, defended ok, can't be in the team instead of Harries or Baldwin though.
Throw ins. AARRRRGGGGHHH!! Swindon did it, then we did it. How can professional footballers paid £100k per year throw the ball at a team mate's middle, expect them to control it, then miss the return pass and give away another throw in. It's kid's stuff. Just say to the ref 'no its ok, let them have it, we'll give it away soon anyway' just eliminate the middle man.
One player walks towards the thrower, then as the ball is above his head to throw, spin off and run behind the defender, if it doesn't come off, fine, but it's better than the s**t we saw yesterday. Train a player to practice long throws, train 3 of them.. Please do something but don't give it away. This is League One.
Tutonda showed his weakness yesterday, a little but rash and gave the ball away a few times. Some good tackles, especially one in the first half to create a good chance for us.
Nicholson was our MOTM for me. Looks a different class.
Upson doesn't warrant a starting place.
I'm over this game, but will expect another limp defeat Tuesday at the moment. I think I need them to show heart, a 'they shall not pass' attitude, protect your keeper, blocks and headers, to be fair they nearly did it yesterday but had we been a little bit more adventurous earlier, especially just after half time, that game was there for the taking.
UTG
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Nov 22, 2020 9:51:19 GMT
I don't know what to make of it really. Swindon were there for the taking, it looks like we came for a clean sheet and nearly got it, but against Swindon?! They were awful. They had no pace upfront therefore there was an opportunity to play higher. I liked the 3-5-2 for round pegs and everyone knows I love that formation, but it was definitely 5-3-2, Tutonda and Hare told not to venture forward. 75 minutes is too late to then start attacking, the free kick we gave away for the goal didn't look like one, it didn't look like a foul, don't know why. Tisdale will be able to take stock and implement something before Tuesday which again is a good opportunity to pick up 3 pts but this current situation gives me little confidence. I was really looking forward to yesterday's game but we showed our weaknesses which was mainly a lack of guts and experience, but this little run will be ok if he turns it round soon. He has to work with them until Jan at least if he wants to change it, bring in one or two. I do feel it's only one or two needed though. Jakkiola was at fault for the goal, such a soft one, bit like kids football. He's usually good at those, so I will allow it. The players out there were good enough to win, but Daly plays and we do win. It made a big difference, Hanlan was isolated too often. I still rate him, opposition defenders can't deal with him and not everything he tries has to come off. Maybe the odd decision needs scrutiny. We won the ball in their half well a few times, just lacked the final ball. This was definitely a freebie for Tisdale being signed on Thursday, it was almost like watching from the stands before meeting the players. We would not have won under BG that is certain. Can someone talk to Kilgour and find out what he needs, the young player of the year last season looks out of his depth on the ball, that free kick he took was rushed, wasted a good opportunity to get the ball in a dangerous area, why was he even taking it? He played ok, defended ok, can't be in the team instead of Harries or Baldwin though. Throw ins. AARRRRGGGGHHH!! Swindon did it, then we did it. How can professional footballers paid £100k per year throw the ball at a team mate's middle, expect them to control it, then miss the return pass and give away another throw in. It's kid's stuff. Just say to the ref 'no its ok, let them have it, we'll give it away soon anyway' just eliminate the middle man. One player walks towards the thrower, then as the ball is above his head to throw, spin off and run behind the defender, if it doesn't come off, fine, but it's better than the s**t we saw yesterday. Train a player to practice long throws, train 3 of them.. Please do something but don't give it away. This is League One. Tutonda showed his weakness yesterday, a little but rash and gave the ball away a few times. Some good tackles, especially one in the first half to create a good chance for us. Nicholson was our MOTM for me. Looks a different class. Upson doesn't warrant a starting place. I'm over this game, but will expect another limp defeat Tuesday at the moment. I think I need them to show heart, a 'they shall not pass' attitude, protect your keeper, blocks and headers, to be fair they nearly did it yesterday but had we been a little bit more adventurous earlier, especially just after half time, that game was there for the taking. UTG ....but apart from all that, everything hunky dory?!
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