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Post by gasheadnaboo on Sept 27, 2020 4:15:13 GMT
"Decisions"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 5:05:50 GMT
O boy. I thought at 3½ minutes he'd moved on from refereeing 'decisions', but alas, he returns to it again a minute later. It's the same self-pitying London whining you hear from Ronnie O'Sullivan, who at least bothered to get good at what he does, first. 'Likeable' Garner is surely becoming less so. I really disliked 'unlikeable' Coughlan, but he'd never have let us keep losing, or accepted us being rubbish, or let go all of our competent, experienced, footballers. |
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Post by mangogas15 on Sept 27, 2020 7:22:59 GMT
O boy. I thought at 3½ minutes he'd moved on from refereeing 'decisions', but alas, he returns to it again a minute later. It's the same self-pitying London whining you hear from Ronnie O'Sullivan, who at least bothered to get good at what he does, first. 'Likeable' Garner is surely becoming less so. I really disliked 'unlikeable' Coughlan, but he'd never have let us keep losing, or accepted us being rubbish, or let go all of our competent, experienced, footballers. Please don't say the words Please don't WE MISSED OLLIE CLARKE TODAY It will never happen, we didn't miss him, he would not have improved today's result, move on from the old players. JCH has not scored yet. Craig is in L2, why did no one want him in L1? They are now at their level. We will never miss Ollie Clarke. |
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Post by mangogas15 on Sept 27, 2020 7:24:28 GMT
your not hiring Alex Ferguson then? ☹️
I think any managers who whinges about refs is out of order, I think in Fergusons case it was more of a tactic though (albeit it one I don't approve of). While I abhor the continual slating of refs, if Ferguson was manager at Rovers and winning more games than he lost, I'd put up with it. If Garner starts winning more games than he loses, I'll put up with it from him as well. Totally agree, take responsibility for your own shortcomings, the basics of defending from set pieces. Practice set pieces in training under pressure. Don't blame the Ref. Certainly not in a 4-1 defeat. |
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Post by basel on Sept 27, 2020 7:48:30 GMT
O boy. I thought at 3½ minutes he'd moved on from refereeing 'decisions', but alas, he returns to it again a minute later. It's the same self-pitying London whining you hear from Ronnie O'Sullivan, who at least bothered to get good at what he does, first. 'Likeable' Garner is surely becoming less so. I really disliked 'unlikeable' Coughlan, but he'd never have let us keep losing, or accepted us being rubbish, or let go all of our competent, experienced, footballers. Please don't say the words Please don't WE MISSED OLLIE CLARKE TODAY It will never happen, we didn't miss him, he would not have improved today's result, move on from the old players. JCH has not scored yet. Craig is in L2, why did no one want him in L1? They are now at their level. We will never miss Ollie Clarke. Ollie is a solid player. Basically if he had an off day on the ball,he never went missing when the opposition had the ball. Guaranteed he would at least block,run back ,challenge for headers and tackle. When he had an average to good day on the ball too,he was a quality midfielder for us. GC is no mug and the player I just described is what he has for the Stags. |
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Post by mangogas15 on Sept 27, 2020 7:49:30 GMT
Please don't say the words Please don't WE MISSED OLLIE CLARKE TODAY It will never happen, we didn't miss him, he would not have improved today's result, move on from the old players. JCH has not scored yet. Craig is in L2, why did no one want him in L1? They are now at their level. We will never miss Ollie Clarke. Ollie is a solid player. Basically if he had an off day on the ball,he never went missing when the opposition had the ball. Guaranteed he would at least block,run back ,challenge for headers and tackle. When he had an average to good day on the ball too,he was a quality midfielder for us. GC is no mug and the player I just described is what he has for the Stags. I accept that, but in L2, and with GC who got the best out of him. |
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Post by basel on Sept 27, 2020 8:06:58 GMT
Ollie is a solid player. Basically if he had an off day on the ball,he never went missing when the opposition had the ball. Guaranteed he would at least block,run back ,challenge for headers and tackle. When he had an average to good day on the ball too,he was a quality midfielder for us. GC is no mug and the player I just described is what he has for the Stags. I accept that, but in L2, and with GC who got the best out of him. Oh to have a manager with the ability to be able to read a players game,get the best out of him and see him fit snuggly into the team system. Quite a talent,but for WAQ, and backed by our Gashead faux football intelligentsia,apparently not good enough. The non attendees, that wanted GC gone,I wonder - in a non Cov19 situation - if they would still be turning up to the rubbish served up by BG? Or would they of stopped going? Did Bristol Rovers,in part give up on a promotion challenge to satisfy the non attending whingers, who would soon be "non attending whingers"! The uselessness of losing GC.The appalling decision making has been far too easily swept under the carpet. Wael has proved himself with eg the Training Ground,but imo,he is responsible for what was basically a naive capitulation. A decision on par - possibly worse - with those that sold Eastville. Or perhaps when in a challenging position in the 2nd tier,with Geoff Bradford breaking his leg, not replacing him. |
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Sept 27, 2020 8:23:09 GMT
I'd rather believe Coughlan's version of needing to be with his family more to save his marriage and the rumours he had had an affair. There was nothing in the interviews back then to indicate that he was shoved out. Garner was interviewed after Clarke left and was second choice - or so it seems.
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Post by mangogas15 on Sept 27, 2020 8:28:38 GMT
I accept that, but in L2, and with GC who got the best out of him. Oh to have a manager with the ability to be able to read a players game,get the best out of him and see him fit snuggly into the team system. Quite a talent,but for WAQ, and backed by our Gashead faux football intelligentsia,apparently not good enough. The non attendees, that wanted GC gone,I wonder - in a non Cov19 situation - if they would still be turning up to the rubbish served up by BG? Or would they of stopped going? Did Bristol Rovers,in part give up on a promotion challenge to satisfy the non attending whingers, who would soon be "non attending whingers"! The uselessness of losing GC.The appalling decision making has been far too easily swept under the carpet. Wael has proved himself with eg the Training Ground,but imo,he is responsible for what was basically a naive capitulation. A decision on par - possibly worse - with those that sold Eastville. Or perhaps when in a challenging position in the 2nd tier,with Geoff Bradford breaking his leg, not replacing him. GC was lost to us, out of their hands I think. I for one liked the style, the underdog, get in their faces, we hate playing against Rovers mentality. Northampton will not be quaking in their boots and that's a worry. GC saved us from relegation and made good signings as well as getting the best out of journeyman L1/2 players, but he is still inconsistent at Mansfield and I wonder if the atmosphere and facilities at Rovers were better than we think. I still maintain we would be playing Championship if he had stayed. What an embarrassment Wycombe are going to be. He's gone now, no point crying over split milk (no typo). I don't think it was the boards fault, but appointing Garnet was. Fair play they have backed him in 2 windows but the writing is on the wall. Yesterday's performance was actually better in some ways, it was a game they could have got something out of, Donny weren't that good. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 27, 2020 9:11:06 GMT
For old times sake:
Just got back..
(True!)
What I saw yesterday was a variation on some of the desperation a manager throws in the twilight of his reign.
It started with the team announcement. No specialist right back, yet we have two at the club. We'll just bung Alfie out there with (apparent) no thought. Then, when arguably the best long pass of the match is made, it falls to.... Alfie. And the poor guy doesn't really know what to do with it..
The defence, including Alfie was a once castle stalwart and a mechanism to aid the attack because we had physicality, organisation and leadership. Alfie doesn't become poor overnight. This season, along with Ehmer, Baldwin and sometimes Harries it appears we are a car crash. These players are technically gifted, but they lack the correct coaching/managing because again there's confusion in the ranks.
Too much to go into here with the rest.
I thought Hanlon was a real gem yesterday. Ran his heart out, physical presence and strong on the ball. He needs a strike partner. We need a strike partnership, ie: a 2 up front. Not a one or a three or a one, one etc..
Daly was named yesterday, but was anonymous, why? Because he was pulled back (which happens when you set up with 3 up front in this division, the other team pushes high).
Doncaster are a capable, organised and strategic team in this division. They were off the ball where we can only dream to be at the moment. But again, we surrendered space too easily to aid them in their pursuit. They looked hungrier, more pro active, dangerous, more energetic and used the ball more effectively. In essence, it appeared they had more men on the pitch. Mainly because we surrendered all those traits to them. Was there any marking for their goals or some of their missed chances?
Again, we have all seen this for multiple games under BG. These lessons appear not to have been learnt.
They won't.
Because BG is not a manager.
We've wasted another week.
One more (?).
We amazingly still have time!? Incredible!
We can remove BG with the best will in the world, shake hands and agree our destinies lie in different directions and wish each other well.
Then... appoint a knowledgeable experienced manager, perhaps with promotion experience. It'll be worth more investing in this project than the moribund football and sad deflated place where we have found ourselves in after 20+ competitive matches.
We are sinking fast.
We are moving backwards and it'll take years to get back to where we were last December, so act now.
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Post by Rex on Sept 27, 2020 9:14:32 GMT
Oh to have a manager with the ability to be able to read a players game,get the best out of him and see him fit snuggly into the team system. Quite a talent,but for WAQ, and backed by our Gashead faux football intelligentsia,apparently not good enough. The non attendees, that wanted GC gone,I wonder - in a non Cov19 situation - if they would still be turning up to the rubbish served up by BG? Or would they of stopped going? Did Bristol Rovers,in part give up on a promotion challenge to satisfy the non attending whingers, who would soon be "non attending whingers"! The uselessness of losing GC.The appalling decision making has been far too easily swept under the carpet. Wael has proved himself with eg the Training Ground,but imo,he is responsible for what was basically a naive capitulation. A decision on par - possibly worse - with those that sold Eastville. Or perhaps when in a challenging position in the 2nd tier,with Geoff Bradford breaking his leg, not replacing him. GC was lost to us, out of their hands I think. I for one liked the style, the underdog, get in their faces, we hate playing against Rovers mentality. Northampton will not be quaking in their boots and that's a worry. GC saved us from relegation and made good signings as well as getting the best out of journeyman L1/2 players, but he is still inconsistent at Mansfield and I wonder if the atmosphere and facilities at Rovers were better than we think. I still maintain we would be playing Championship if he had stayed. What an embarrassment Wycombe are going to be. He's gone now, no point crying over split milk (no typo). I don't think it was the boards fault, but appointing Garnet was. Fair play they have backed him in 2 windows but the writing is on the wall. Yesterday's performance was actually better in some ways, it was a game they could have got something out of, Donny weren't that good. Northampton have a very 'get in your face ' style themselves, they absolutely steam rollered Exeter in the play offs. Would Keith Curle fancy coming to his - original- boyhood favourites as manager? |
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Post by eppinggas on Sept 27, 2020 9:23:30 GMT
The defence, including Alfie was a once castle stalwart and a mechanism to aid the attack because we had physicality, organisation and leadership. Alfie doesn't become poor overnight. This season, along with Ehmer, Baldwin and sometimes Harries it appears we are a car crash. These players are technically gifted, but they lack the correct coaching/managing because again there's confusion in the ranks. I really think we are missing Tony Craig in defence. Our true Captain (without arm-band) and leader on the pitch. Superb organiser, motivator & master of the dark arts (without picking up many cards). Would love to have seen him retained as a squad member and defensive coach. Anyway, spilt milk. We're leaking goals with arguably the best keeper in the division. Not good. Not good. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 27, 2020 9:25:32 GMT
The defence, including Alfie was a once castle stalwart and a mechanism to aid the attack because we had physicality, organisation and leadership. Alfie doesn't become poor overnight. This season, along with Ehmer, Baldwin and sometimes Harries it appears we are a car crash. These players are technically gifted, but they lack the correct coaching/managing because again there's confusion in the ranks. I really think we are missing Tony Craig in defence. Our true Captain (without arm-band) and leader on the pitch. Superb organiser, motivator & master of the dark arts (without picking up many cards). Would love to have seen him retained as a squad member and defensive coach. Anyway, spilt milk. We're leaking goals with arguably the best keeper in the division. Not good. Not good. Totally agree, Eppers. Imo, a good manager gets the best out our players, conversely................. |
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Post by eppinggas on Sept 27, 2020 9:27:31 GMT
Northampton have a very 'get in your face ' style themselves, they absolutely steam rollered Exeter in the play offs. Would Keith Curle fancy coming to his - original- boyhood favourites as manager? I think Keith Curle would fancy coming to his - original - boyhood favourites as opposition manager. We're going to get bullied next week. They don't like it up 'em Captain Mainwaring! |
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Post by Rex on Sept 27, 2020 9:44:34 GMT
Northampton have a very 'get in your face ' style themselves, they absolutely steam rollered Exeter in the play offs. Would Keith Curle fancy coming to his - original- boyhood favourites as manager? I think Keith Curle would fancy coming to his - original - boyhood favourites as opposition manager. We're going to get bullied next week. They don't like it up 'em Captain Mainwaring! I think you're right. I can see it getting messy. |
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Post by mangogas15 on Sept 27, 2020 12:28:17 GMT
Little frustrates me, plays 2 then gets injured, not good for the back 4, showed yesterday.
I agree that Hare should be taking it easy as long term he is a gem.
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Post by basel on Sept 27, 2020 14:42:42 GMT
Just seen the goals.What a load of rubbish, from the team bottom of the 3rd tier.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 15:32:02 GMT
I think any managers who whinges about refs is out of order, I think in Fergusons case it was more of a tactic though (albeit it one I don't approve of). While I abhor the continual slating of refs, if Ferguson was manager at Rovers and winning more games than he lost, I'd put up with it. If Garner starts winning more games than he loses, I'll put up with it from him as well. Totally agree, take responsibility for your own shortcomings, the basics of defending from set pieces. Practice set pieces in training under pressure. Don't blame the Ref. Certainly not in a 4-1 defeat. He’s so transparent it’s unbelievable. He’s blaming the ref because, as the scoreline suggests, we got proper tonked. If you took the ref out of the equation he’d have to start blaming himself and keen Garner-watchers will know that he will never do that in a month of Sundays. |
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Sept 27, 2020 15:40:58 GMT
Just wish he would show some passion,charisma or humour now and then.Wish Manse was next to him as there is someone who away at Mansfield three seasons or so ago showed immense leadership in the face of some vile off the ball antics from an ex City player-Nicky Hunt- who was doing all sorts of things and was sent off-
Manse knows us and would be worth a shout.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 15:55:08 GMT
I watched the interview again, I'm unsure why, to count 'decisions' or 'decision' seventeen times. I don't want him sacked. I want him to man up.
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