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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 17:04:26 GMT
then is it right pegs right holes? The best from Williams and best back three pick available, get the best from rodders so deep, get the best from best Westbrook wide right and forward? For all your praising it, it’s 3 points from 9 from hardly group of death set of fixtures. So do you disagree that the shape worked very well v Shrews (a match we dominated for 90 minutes) & that we were well on top last night until the red card? I’m not saying that JB has cracked it & found the magic formula, as results clearly need to improve, but performances have definitely improved since his arrival IMO - which will hopefully lead to improved results after a bit more training time. Not sure I buy that, we created a sackful of chances against Portsmouth and Gillingham but couldn’t finish them off and defended badly. Same story last night and against Wigan so I don’t think JB has had a miraculous effect at all.
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Post by 1883 on Mar 3, 2021 17:07:11 GMT
So do you disagree that the shape worked very well v Shrews (a match we dominated for 90 minutes) & that we were well on top last night until the red card? I’m not saying that JB has cracked it & found the magic formula, as results clearly need to improve, but performances have definitely improved since his arrival IMO - which will hopefully lead to improved results after a bit more training time. Not sure I buy that, we created a sackful of chances against Portsmouth and Gillingham but couldn’t finish them off and defended badly. Same story last night and against Wigan so I don’t think JB has had a miraculous effect at all. Let’s be clear, no one has said anything about ‘miracles’ after 3 points from 9. But Bartonball looking more promising than the stuff we were seeing under Tisdale. The win over Shrews was probably our most complete performance this season.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Mar 3, 2021 17:13:03 GMT
My chest is certainly not pumped out and feeling pride. Not blaming JB but those above.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 17:58:23 GMT
Not sure I buy that, we created a sackful of chances against Portsmouth and Gillingham but couldn’t finish them off and defended badly. Same story last night and against Wigan so I don’t think JB has had a miraculous effect at all. Let’s be clear, no one has said anything about ‘miracles’ after 3 points from 9. But Bartonball looking more promising than the stuff we were seeing under Tisdale. The win over Shrews was probably our most complete performance this season. It’s borne less fruit than Widdringtonball so far (admittedly buy one more game), so unless Barton manages to produce results I’m not going to be convinced it was worth all the fuss bringing him in. One thing I find interesting is that Ayunga seemed to be the first name on Widdrington’s team sheet but he hardly featured under Tisdale and Barton seems to have moved away from him despite the 2 goals against Portsmouth.
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Post by emperorsuperbus on Mar 3, 2021 18:02:17 GMT
Not sure I buy that, we created a sackful of chances against Portsmouth and Gillingham but couldn’t finish them off and defended badly. Same story last night and against Wigan so I don’t think JB has had a miraculous effect at all. Let’s be clear, no one has said anything about ‘miracles’ after 3 points from 9. But Bartonball looking more promising than the stuff we were seeing under Tisdale. The win over Shrews was probably our most complete performance this season. To be fair. I like the way he is sticking to settled side and match plans. I feel more comfortable with that than under Tisdale. And we did look good against shrews. We did look good in some games under Tis and Garner too, the problem was the results all around those days like Barton is also producing. no it’s not fair to draw that conclusion after only 3 games, perhaps after 10 or 12. is it the formation tactic and personnel I would pick? again that is not a fair question, because the whole squad is much of a muchness. Football is never about playing all your best players in their strongest position, what if your five best players were left backs, you couldn’t play them all. It’s about putting out an effective side. And in that sense I quite like what Barton is doing. We look solid, and full of energy and runners, and a fair deal of flair and creativity. Nico was carrying the ball at them brilliantly yesterday. It’s not Barton’s fault we have played the whole season without enough cutting edge in front of goal and he gets a relegation on his CV.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2021 19:59:02 GMT
then is it right pegs right holes? The best from Williams and best back three pick available, get the best from rodders so deep, get the best from best Westbrook wide right and forward? For all your praising it, it’s 3 points from 9 from hardly group of death set of fixtures. So do you disagree that the shape worked very well v Shrews (a match we dominated for 90 minutes) & that we were well on top last night until the red card? I’m not saying that JB has cracked it & found the magic formula, as results clearly need to improve, but performances have definitely improved since his arrival IMO - which will hopefully lead to improved results after a bit more training time. I thought we played quite well against Rochdale and Oxford under Tisdale and the players gave 100% but lacked finishing and defended poorly. We nearly threw it away against Shrewsbury which would have been an injustice but we need points and I'm not sure this bunch can give much more.
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Post by basel on Mar 3, 2021 21:07:12 GMT
Hmm.
We should of scored twice at least.
JVF mis*** clearance led him to stray far from his goal. McCormick tapped the ball away instinctively imo,to give JVF time to get back to his goal.Abit unlucky perhaps and not as stupid as I thought it might be.
I think Day or Anssi would of saved the Burton goal.
That 'said',we're in deep trouble.
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Post by chelt_gas on Mar 3, 2021 22:27:56 GMT
We played better than Burton but it was still a team that looked susceptible. I can’t quite put my finger on it but there’s a fragileness about the way the team plays as a whole.
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Post by basel on Mar 4, 2021 6:46:34 GMT
We played better than Burton but it was still a team that looked susceptible. I can’t quite put my finger on it but there’s a fragileness about the way the team plays as a whole. Is it we simply miss a midfielder and CH that 'fights' ,heads and tackles for the ball like eg Tom Lockyer and Ollie Clark. A central defender that insists on giving everything - rather than quite alot,hoping no one notices - to win the ball from dead ball situation. A player that enjoys the midfield 'battle' rather than eternally pressing,never actually tackling and this after surrendering possession in the first place by not going in on a 50 50. I know full well pressng is good,it has it's place as does passing ability,reading of the game,balancing a players strengths and weaknesses to fit into the team ,etc. The ball is there to be won.
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Post by mangogas15 on Mar 4, 2021 13:48:56 GMT
We should have won this game. The keeper is to blame for the red card, Luke will have to take it, although the inconsistency of the referee later was diabolique..
Needed to take our chances first half.
Hull have won 1 of their last 4 home games, which was Tuesday vs Rochdale who have in turn won 1 in 14. We have a chance to upsetthe applecart.
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