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Post by texasgas on Jan 11, 2020 17:02:31 GMT
Completely overun by a far superior & skillful Doncaster, the result is no surprise. 1 shot on target. 35% possession. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 17:05:43 GMT
How long can this be allowed to continue?
35% possession, at home.
Only shot on target, and that was a ball lofted back in to the box which their keeper had to catch.
For 70 minutes not a single player put any effort in at all.
We switched continually from a flat back 4 to 3 at the back with wing backs, that created chaos in midfield.
When we had the ball they had a flat back 4, when they had it, our midfield was so deep and so disorganised that they went to 2 at the back and played their other 2 defenders as extra midfielders, that's how much space we gave them.
It was like watching Liverpool play Nuneaton at times.
Garner stood and watched it scratching his chin for the entire 90 minutes.
Literally not a single person in Box 1. Read in to that what you like.
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Post by eppinggas on Jan 11, 2020 17:09:53 GMT
0-2. Oh dear. Are there any crumbs of comfort that can be taken?
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Post by eppinggas on Jan 11, 2020 17:13:00 GMT
How long can this be allowed to continue? 35% possession, at home. Only shot on target, and that was a ball lofted back in to the box which their keeper had to catch. For 70 minutes not a single player put any effort in at all. We switched continually from a flat back 4 to 3 at the back with wing backs, that created chaos in midfield. When we had the ball they had a flat back 4, when they had it, our midfield was so deep and so disorganised that they went to 2 at the back and played their other 2 defenders as extra midfielders, that's how much space we gave them. It was like watching Liverpool play Nuneaton at times. Garner stood and watched it scratching his chin for the entire 90 minutes. Literally not a single person in Box 1. Read in to that what you like. I thought Wael had moved to Box 7 (well the one on the half way line)... As for the rest of it - sounds pretty shocking. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 17:13:26 GMT
0-2. Oh dear. Are there any crumbs of comfort that can be taken? Yes, Nick Day looks well. Ref the football. It was a horror show, start to finish, front to back. We are a total mess. |
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Jan 11, 2020 17:23:01 GMT
1-0 Donny Hate to say it but just get rid of this new guy. Joke. The other coaches were more active from the dugout than he was. |
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Post by eppinggas on Jan 11, 2020 17:30:20 GMT
In front of 6,834 punters. To take a line from Blackadder... "I think the phrase rhymes with clucking bell".
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Post by jqgas on Jan 11, 2020 17:43:40 GMT
After that disjointed, hapless effort I think it's fair to say we are going to be chiefly concerned with staying out of the bottom three for the rest of this season. We don't look remotely like scoring and JCH isn't the man he was last season when he dragged us out of the mire practically single-handed. No sign of any coaching prowess that I could see - it certainly didn't look like the players either had been given, or understood, any coherent instructions. Hard to see the light at the end of this particular tunnel.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 17:46:04 GMT
I thought we did well today.
To get nil.
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Post by basel on Jan 11, 2020 17:46:19 GMT
Well you try to be enthusiastic and find a way of supporting the manager/Boss and his strategies.Then that becomes difficult.
Rovers were rubbish today and I think the Manager is to blame.
I hoped we were saving something for the second half,but apart from a five minute spell before Donny scored their first,we offered no threat.
IMO we miss Ollie and/or Ollie to fight in midfield.JCH needs a partner upfront and IMO it is'nt Reilly.
BG appeared impotent to change the game.
Does he get the 3rd tier?
If I was to bet on wheter BG can turn this around or not,I would sadly bet against it.
I hope I'm (and others) are wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 17:57:10 GMT
Well you try to be enthusiastic and find a way of supporting the manager/Boss and his strategies.Then that becomes difficult. Rovers were rubbish today and I think the Manager is to blame. I hoped we were saving something for the second half,but apart from a five minute spell before Donny scored their first,we offered no threat. IMO we miss Ollie and/or Ollie to fight in midfield.JCH needs a partner upfront and IMO it is'nt Reilly. BG appeared impotent to change the game. Does he get the 3rd tier? If I was to bet on wheter BG can turn this around or not,I would sadly bet against it. I hope I'm (and others) are wrong. I'm looking at things and wondering if he has the experience to deal with things that happen during games, or maybe he has a black book full of ideas and thinks he has a team of world beaters, so is overloading the players with ideas rather than getting basics right. I've honestly never seen a team continually switch between 4 and 5 at the back during a game like that before, our players were waving arms, shouting and pointing, it was like nobody was quite sure what was happening or confident that the man next to them was going to deal with any given situation. Doncaster played around us with ease and we just had no shape or discipline. It was very worrying to watch. Like you, I never want anybody to fail here, but surely he can't carry on much longer unless things get a lot better? |
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Post by syg on Jan 11, 2020 18:12:08 GMT
I thought the 2nd half was our best performance under BG.
Reilly with JCH looked a lot more useful than I would have anticipated.
Same problems as we had with GC, the midfield.
BG hasn't given the post match interview, hopefully as he's having quite a discussion with the players.
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Post by basel on Jan 11, 2020 18:12:56 GMT
Well you try to be enthusiastic and find a way of supporting the manager/Boss and his strategies.Then that becomes difficult. Rovers were rubbish today and I think the Manager is to blame. I hoped we were saving something for the second half,but apart from a five minute spell before Donny scored their first,we offered no threat. IMO we miss Ollie and/or Ollie to fight in midfield.JCH needs a partner upfront and IMO it is'nt Reilly. BG appeared impotent to change the game. Does he get the 3rd tier? If I was to bet on wheter BG can turn this around or not,I would sadly bet against it. I hope I'm (and others) are wrong. I'm looking at things and wondering if he has the experience to deal with things that happen during games, or maybe he has a black book full of ideas and thinks he has a team of world beaters, so is overloading the players with ideas rather than getting basics right. I've honestly never seen a team continually switch between 4 and 5 at the back during a game like that before, our players were waving arms, shouting and pointing, it was like nobody was quite sure what was happening or confident that the man next to them was going to deal with any given situation. Doncaster played around us with ease and we just had no shape or discipline. It was very worrying to watch. Like you, I never want anybody to fail here, but surely he can't carry on much longer unless things get a lot better? "Basics". It looks like - and as you suggest - he has overcomplicated coaching.Individuality and team wise.This concophony of theory might be fine down the pub - preferably when half cut to numb the boredom - ,but on the field of play it creates performances like what we witnessed today or Iceland v England (oooh,shudder).Confused,clueless and ever increasingly frustrated footballers. You do not have time to read the Boss' coaching manual during a football match. Football is an easy game ,or at least it use to be at Rovers. |
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Post by vaughan on Jan 11, 2020 18:14:00 GMT
I said that it was going to get worse and it is.
The quality in the squad is poor and now they are seemingly confused.
We will continue to lose and this will be a vicious cycle in terms of confidence.
By end of Feb, we will have to make a decision and that is asking an awful lot.
In simple terms, Garner is a football geek and is not tailor-made for this club. Too passive: too technical. He is the sort of guy that the girls will talk to, but he won't get his leg over. His training sessions will be interesting but none of that matters in a results-business.
It is the lack of man-management skills that are worrying.
Fans have no patience full-stop. However, to lose 3 home games out of 4 is a terrible start.
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Post by basel on Jan 11, 2020 18:16:29 GMT
I'm looking at things and wondering if he has the experience to deal with things that happen during games, or maybe he has a black book full of ideas and thinks he has a team of world beaters, so is overloading the players with ideas rather than getting basics right. I've honestly never seen a team continually switch between 4 and 5 at the back during a game like that before, our players were waving arms, shouting and pointing, it was like nobody was quite sure what was happening or confident that the man next to them was going to deal with any given situation. Doncaster played around us with ease and we just had no shape or discipline. It was very worrying to watch. Like you, I never want anybody to fail here, but surely he can't carry on much longer unless things get a lot better? "Basics". It looks like - and as you suggest - he has overcomplicated coaching.Individuality and team wise.This concophony of theory might be fine down the pub - preferably when half cut to numb the boredom - ,but on the field of play it creates performances like what we witnessed today or Iceland v England (oooh,shudder).Confused,clueless and ever increasingly frustrated footballers. You do not have time to read the Boss' coaching manual during a football match. Football is an easy game ,or at least it use to be at Rovers. 'Cacophony' evening.  |
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Post by basel on Jan 11, 2020 18:20:43 GMT
I said that it was going to get worse and it is. The quality in the squad is poor and now they are seemingly confused. We will continue to lose and this will be a vicious cycle in terms of confidence. By end of Feb, we will have to make a decision and that is asking an awful lot. In simple terms, Garner is a football geek and is not tailor-made for this club. Too passive: too technical. He is the sort of guy that the girls will talk to, but he won't get his leg over. His training sessions will be interesting but none of that matters in a results-business. It is the lack of man-management skills that are worrying. Fans have no patience full-stop. However, to lose 3 home games out of 4 is a terrible start. Yep,Coughlan would get bladdered,ask women if they had any Irish in em (and did they want some),dance crap and still get a shag! |
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Post by syg on Jan 11, 2020 18:23:47 GMT
As anybody here spoken to the players, or are you making assumptions based on performances?
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Post by harrybuckle on Jan 11, 2020 18:25:12 GMT
As anybody here spoken to the players, or are you making assumptions based on performances? [br Fifth consecutive win at the Mem for Donny who looked good once again |
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Post by danrory on Jan 11, 2020 18:33:01 GMT
Deja vu... Dave Penny time
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 18:53:13 GMT
I thought the 2nd half was our best performance under BG. Reilly with JCH looked a lot more useful than I would have anticipated. Same problems as we had with GC, the midfield. BG hasn't given the post match interview, hopefully as he's having quite a discussion with the players. But today's midfield problems were entirely self inflicted. I hope Garner isn't talking to the players. 3 games ago it looked odds on that this was coming, I said then that he should be given 3 games to make a start with sorting it out. It's getting worse. BTW, our right back isn't ready to play at this level, and opponents know it. |
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